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starkat · 04-29-2004, 05:20 PM

Thank you! I knew Galadriel's ring was Nenya, but I couldn't remember if Gandalf's was Narya. I knew it was the ring of fire though.

Knight of Gondor · 04-29-2004, 08:24 PM

The book mentions it, but it doesn't include any conversations about it. So I don't think there would be any need for them to bring it up again. The average viewer would totally forget all about the three Elven rings that were mentioned in the prologue.

starkat · 04-30-2004, 05:15 AM

I beg to differ about the average viewer forgetting. I went to see RotK with a younger of mine, who hadn't read the books, and after we left the theater I mentioned something about the ring on Gandalf's hand in the movie. I was curious to see if she had noticed it. She said she wondered about where it came from.

Added at 1:22pm:
I just dropped in on TORn to see what I could see and they had an interview with a New Line executive. One of the questions was possible RotK EE scenes...the Mouth of Sauron, Sarumon after the flooding of Isengard, and an expansion of Faramir's story were listed as being added.

Knight of Gondor · 05-02-2004, 09:10 PM

Don't everyone visit this website at once, but all sorts of my ideas were confirmed in this link, which I have yet to explore in depth yet.

mollecon · 05-03-2004, 12:27 PM

The giving of the ring of fire to Gandalf is surely mentioned in the appendices of the books - it's even mentioned that Cirdan (or Kirdan, as it's sometime spelled) says to Gandalf something to the extend of "that he's giving him the ring in the hope of Gandalf being able to once again light a fire in the hearts of people in a world that's growing cold..."

Essex · 05-17-2004, 03:11 AM

Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but the part of the book I want to see in the EE the most is the tale of the years after the Ringbearers have departed West.

But listening to Frodo's narration at the end of the film for the umpteenth time, I have now realised that Sam will not be following Frodo in the movie version.

Frodo implicitally states that the ship they are on is the LAST ship to depart for the West. ie, in Jackson's version, Sam does not follow Frodo, and this makes me VERY sad!

PS This is obviously why we had Celeborn on the ship as well........in the book he stays in lothlorien a while before he departs. But in Mr Jackson's version, he needs to take the last bus home!

starkat · 05-17-2004, 05:58 AM

I don't remember where I heard it, but supposedly they are supposed to be redoing the ending a little. I think it was to make it a little smoother. I don't know for sure.

? Maybe some kind of flash foward in time during Frodo's voice over? (My idea)

04-29-2004, 08:24 PM	#2
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	The book mentions it, but it doesn't include any conversations about it. So I don't think there would be any need for them to bring it up again. The average viewer would totally forget all about the three Elven rings that were mentioned in the prologue. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

04-30-2004, 05:15 AM	#3
starkat Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cair Paravel during the Golden Age of Narnia Posts: 146	I beg to differ about the average viewer forgetting. I went to see RotK with a younger of mine, who hadn't read the books, and after we left the theater I mentioned something about the ring on Gandalf's hand in the movie. I was curious to see if she had noticed it. She said she wondered about where it came from. Added at 1:22pm: I just dropped in on TORn to see what I could see and they had an interview with a New Line executive. One of the questions was possible RotK EE scenes...the Mouth of Sauron, Sarumon after the flooding of Isengard, and an expansion of Faramir's story were listed as being added. Last edited by starkat; 04-30-2004 at 12:24 PM.

05-02-2004, 09:10 PM	#4
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Don't everyone visit this website at once, but all sorts of my ideas were confirmed in this link, which I have yet to explore in depth yet. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

05-17-2004, 05:58 AM	#7
starkat Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cair Paravel during the Golden Age of Narnia Posts: 146	I don't remember where I heard it, but supposedly they are supposed to be redoing the ending a little. I think it was to make it a little smoother. I don't know for sure. ? Maybe some kind of flash foward in time during Frodo's voice over? (My idea) __________________ "Wrong will be right, when Aslan comes in sight, At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more, ... And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again. ~ The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe Narnia Movie Info

04-29-2004, 05:20 PM	#1
starkat Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cair Paravel during the Golden Age of Narnia Posts: 146	Thank you! I knew Galadriel's ring was Nenya, but I couldn't remember if Gandalf's was Narya. I knew it was the ring of fire though.

05-03-2004, 12:27 PM	#5
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	The giving of the ring of fire to Gandalf is surely mentioned in the appendices of the books - it's even mentioned that Cirdan (or Kirdan, as it's sometime spelled) says to Gandalf something to the extend of "that he's giving him the ring in the hope of Gandalf being able to once again light a fire in the hearts of people in a world that's growing cold..."

05-17-2004, 03:11 AM	#6
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but the part of the book I want to see in the EE the most is the tale of the years after the Ringbearers have departed West. But listening to Frodo's narration at the end of the film for the umpteenth time, I have now realised that Sam will not be following Frodo in the movie version. Frodo implicitally states that the ship they are on is the LAST ship to depart for the West. ie, in Jackson's version, Sam does not follow Frodo, and this makes me VERY sad! PS This is obviously why we had Celeborn on the ship as well........in the book he stays in lothlorien a while before he departs. But in Mr Jackson's version, he needs to take the last bus home!