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Frodo Baggins · 05-06-2004, 05:58 PM

It says in the appendices on LOTR "On Pronunciation" that Ea and Eo in elvish are ALWAYS pronounced as two syllables. It is E-ar-en-deel. In the movie they say something like Ear-en-deel. That's is wrong, so jsut beacsue they say it a way in the movie does nto make it right.

Bombadil · 05-06-2004, 06:53 PM

I always thought when pronouncing Earendil, the E and the A kind of blended. So it would be pronunced in "elvish prose," if there is such a thing, as:

yar-en-deel

(of course with a hard "R" and a tiny accent of an E sound before the Y)

correct me if I'm wrong!

Olorin_TLA · 05-06-2004, 07:11 PM

I always pronouncedit as a kind of subtle ayr-en-diil

Amariden Ravenhill · 05-06-2004, 10:41 PM

I have a friend who is trying to teach himself correct pronunciation of Elven names and he want to know how Feanor is pronounced: He pronounces it Fay-AH-nor while his brother says it's Fay-An-or

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 05-07-2004, 06:02 AM

The pronaunciation of Eärendil: all the vowels are pronaunced separately ->" E" like in the word "there" (the first e), "ä" like in the word "father" (the ä only being short), "r" is always (or at least very often) trilled in Elvish, "e" in the same way as the first one and "i" like in the word "machine". If I recall right the accent (or what ever it is called) is in the very beginning of the word -> EÄrendil.
I don't know if you understood my confusing explanation at all but I tried my best. The pronaunciation in Elvish is the same as in Finnish if that helps you

. There are quite good directions in the appendix and of course here: http://move.to/ardalambion

Mad Baggins · 05-11-2004, 08:20 PM

Look in the back of Return of the King, in Appendix E; there is a lot of help on pronunciation.

05-19-2004, 11:19 AM

Being as much of a nerd as I am, I'm currently learning Elvish.

So perhaps I can help a bit. This is how these names should technically be pronounced, though naturally people slur words and sounds together. Stressed syllables are in all caps.

Smeagol= SMAY-uh-gol

Numenore= Noo-meh-NOR-ay or Noo-meh-NOR-eh

Legolas= LEh-go-las

Eärendil= Ay-eh-REN-dil (dil being pronounced more like 'deel')

Feanor= FAY-eh-nor

If you would like the specific rules for pronunciation, let me know. There are reasons why the stress falls where it does.

05-06-2004, 05:58 PM	#1
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Ea and Eo It says in the appendices on LOTR "On Pronunciation" that Ea and Eo in elvish are ALWAYS pronounced as two syllables. It is E-ar-en-deel. In the movie they say something like Ear-en-deel. That's is wrong, so jsut beacsue they say it a way in the movie does nto make it right. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

05-06-2004, 06:53 PM	#2
Bombadil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Old Forest Posts: 488	I always thought when pronouncing Earendil, the E and the A kind of blended. So it would be pronunced in "elvish prose," if there is such a thing, as: yar-en-deel (of course with a hard "R" and a tiny accent of an E sound before the Y) correct me if I'm wrong! __________________ "'Eldest, that's what I am... Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.'"

05-06-2004, 07:11 PM	#3
Olorin_TLA Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gardens of Lórien, Valinor. Posts: 420	I always pronouncedit as a kind of subtle ayr-en-diil __________________ "For I am Olórin! And Olórin means me!" ELENDIL! - Join "Forth Tolkiengas!"

05-06-2004, 10:41 PM	#4
Amariden Ravenhill Wight Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Mordor where the Shadows lie Posts: 113	I have a friend who is trying to teach himself correct pronunciation of Elven names and he want to know how Feanor is pronounced: He pronounces it Fay-AH-nor while his brother says it's Fay-An-or __________________ Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.= I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë!

05-07-2004, 06:02 AM	#5
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	The pronaunciation of Eärendil: all the vowels are pronaunced separately ->" E" like in the word "there" (the first e), "ä" like in the word "father" (the ä only being short), "r" is always (or at least very often) trilled in Elvish, "e" in the same way as the first one and "i" like in the word "machine". If I recall right the accent (or what ever it is called) is in the very beginning of the word -> EÄrendil. I don't know if you understood my confusing explanation at all but I tried my best. The pronaunciation in Elvish is the same as in Finnish if that helps you . There are quite good directions in the appendix and of course here: http://move.to/ardalambion __________________ Fenris Wolf

05-11-2004, 08:20 PM	#6
Mad Baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A place where after thunder golden showers come falling like a rain of flowers. Posts: 371	Look in the back of Return of the King, in Appendix E; there is a lot of help on pronunciation. __________________ I like buying snacks from a vending machine because food is better when it falls. Sometimes at the grocery, I'll drop a candy bar so that it will achieve its maximum flavor potential.

05-19-2004, 11:19 AM	#7
Bethelarien Guest Posts: n/a	Being as much of a nerd as I am, I'm currently learning Elvish. So perhaps I can help a bit. This is how these names should technically be pronounced, though naturally people slur words and sounds together. Stressed syllables are in all caps. Smeagol= SMAY-uh-gol Numenore= Noo-meh-NOR-ay or Noo-meh-NOR-eh Legolas= LEh-go-las Eärendil= Ay-eh-REN-dil (dil being pronounced more like 'deel') Feanor= FAY-eh-nor If you would like the specific rules for pronunciation, let me know. There are reasons why the stress falls where it does.