The Hills of Evendim Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Meneltarmacil · 05-15-2004, 08:29 AM

I managed to post about Thoronmir's role in the battle, and I will bring his story to a close after the group reaches the settlement. At the beginning of the RPG, I said that he had given up being a Ranger, but since the events in this story, he's had a change of heart. With the remaining Rangers at the settlement being somewhat in need of a strong leader at the moment, I believe Thoronmir could stay with them as their new leader while the rest of the party returns to Bree.

littlemanpoet · 05-15-2004, 08:34 PM

Friends, I have a feeling that I wrapped things up too quickly and nicely. All I needed was Corn to distract Herugor, and bingo. So there you have it.

From here on out, it seems to me that the story is going to revolve around mourning for Lira, reunions at the settlement, and report back to that 1st cousin Hobbit of Merioadoc, whose name I can't even remember off hand.....

Lira, your latest post was a thing of beauty. Truly Tolkienian in spirit. I'm a happy game owner.

littlemanpoet · 05-17-2004, 08:12 PM

Eswen, that was a beautiful post! I'm hoping to hear from Lumiel and Gorby yet, and maybe something from Anson too, for that matter. And my dreams would come true if Elora would post for Uien, but I'm not going to hold out for that one. I'll give it two more days and then move us to the reunion at the settlement.

Esgallhugwen · 05-19-2004, 08:49 AM

Thank you LMP!

I was worried on account that I don't think I made it quite sad enough.

What are we going to do with Lira's body? I know its a bit rude to ask, but are we going to burn it on a pyre, or are we going to bury her and if so where? Should we bury her in the Shire, so that Gorby and Anson could visit their beloved friend's grave, or should we lay her body to rest in one of the Evendim Hills?, so that her tomb may be acknowledged by others that an Elven Lady aided in the destruction of the Mouth of Sauron to keep the lands of Middle- Earth safe. That is of course if her tomb is marked.

Its sad that things are finally coming to a close

littlemanpoet · 05-19-2004, 06:52 PM

Good question, and I have given it a wee bit of thought, but nothing decisive.

Burning on a pyre is out. Even though that fits Celtic mythology, it doesn't fit Tolkien's construction because burning on a pyre carries the meaning that the spirit is rising with the smoke and flames into the great beyond, and Elves know better.

It is more in keeping that Lira would be buried, since Elves are (as well as being so in tune with the spiritual dimension) very much in tune with root and leaf and ground. Think of Arwen in Lorien at the end of her days, for example. But Lira? Where did she call home? That would be the most appropriate burial ground, unless there was a place that meant even more to her.

Your suggestions raise an interesting question to me: were Elves buried in terms of what they meant to others, or in terms of what was most dear to themselves while they were alive? What would an Elf think about this? Any guesses? Wow! Sounds like a discussion thread topic for Books, no?

Yes, it is sad that things are coming to a close, but they needn't for the characters. I can imagine Falowik and Uien carrying on, somewhere, somehow, and Falco has learned just enough tolerance for Big People, as well as a new sense of just what he's capable of, that he might get it into his head to go on a journey, and maybe with some Big Person that he knows better than most. I wish I had gotten to develop more of a softening in Falco's outlook, but that can happen beyond this story. And heck, I really like Eodwine a lot. He was my firstest rpg character here at the Downs.

Imladris · 05-19-2004, 07:56 PM

As for Lira's home, that would be Mirkwood.

Even though she travelled abroad she always went back there.

piosenniel · 05-19-2004, 08:29 PM

Please remember to refer to Mirkwood now as Eryn Lasgalen - it was renamed after the War of the Ring, when the Shadow that infested it was lifted.

Thanks!

~*~ Pio

05-15-2004, 08:29 AM	#1
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	I managed to post about Thoronmir's role in the battle, and I will bring his story to a close after the group reaches the settlement. At the beginning of the RPG, I said that he had given up being a Ranger, but since the events in this story, he's had a change of heart. With the remaining Rangers at the settlement being somewhat in need of a strong leader at the moment, I believe Thoronmir could stay with them as their new leader while the rest of the party returns to Bree. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

05-15-2004, 08:34 PM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Not set in stone! Friends, I have a feeling that I wrapped things up too quickly and nicely. All I needed was Corn to distract Herugor, and bingo. So there you have it. From here on out, it seems to me that the story is going to revolve around mourning for Lira, reunions at the settlement, and report back to that 1st cousin Hobbit of Merioadoc, whose name I can't even remember off hand..... Lira, your latest post was a thing of beauty. Truly Tolkienian in spirit. I'm a happy game owner. Last edited by littlemanpoet; 05-15-2004 at 09:00 PM. Reason: added note

05-19-2004, 08:49 AM	#4
Esgallhugwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Where the Moon cries against the snow Posts: 526	Thank you LMP! I was worried on account that I don't think I made it quite sad enough. What are we going to do with Lira's body? I know its a bit rude to ask, but are we going to burn it on a pyre, or are we going to bury her and if so where? Should we bury her in the Shire, so that Gorby and Anson could visit their beloved friend's grave, or should we lay her body to rest in one of the Evendim Hills?, so that her tomb may be acknowledged by others that an Elven Lady aided in the destruction of the Mouth of Sauron to keep the lands of Middle- Earth safe. That is of course if her tomb is marked. Its sad that things are finally coming to a close __________________ "...for the sin of the idolater is not that he worships stone, but that he worships one stone over others. -8:9:4 The Witness of Fane"

05-19-2004, 06:52 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Lira's body Good question, and I have given it a wee bit of thought, but nothing decisive. Burning on a pyre is out. Even though that fits Celtic mythology, it doesn't fit Tolkien's construction because burning on a pyre carries the meaning that the spirit is rising with the smoke and flames into the great beyond, and Elves know better. It is more in keeping that Lira would be buried, since Elves are (as well as being so in tune with the spiritual dimension) very much in tune with root and leaf and ground. Think of Arwen in Lorien at the end of her days, for example. But Lira? Where did she call home? That would be the most appropriate burial ground, unless there was a place that meant even more to her. Your suggestions raise an interesting question to me: were Elves buried in terms of what they meant to others, or in terms of what was most dear to themselves while they were alive? What would an Elf think about this? Any guesses? Wow! Sounds like a discussion thread topic for Books, no? Yes, it is sad that things are coming to a close, but they needn't for the characters. I can imagine Falowik and Uien carrying on, somewhere, somehow, and Falco has learned just enough tolerance for Big People, as well as a new sense of just what he's capable of, that he might get it into his head to go on a journey, and maybe with some Big Person that he knows better than most. I wish I had gotten to develop more of a softening in Falco's outlook, but that can happen beyond this story. And heck, I really like Eodwine a lot. He was my firstest rpg character here at the Downs.

05-19-2004, 08:29 PM	#7
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Please remember to refer to Mirkwood now as Eryn Lasgalen - it was renamed after the War of the Ring, when the Shadow that infested it was lifted. Thanks! ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

05-17-2004, 08:12 PM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Eswen, that was a beautiful post! I'm hoping to hear from Lumiel and Gorby yet, and maybe something from Anson too, for that matter. And my dreams would come true if Elora would post for Uien, but I'm not going to hold out for that one. I'll give it two more days and then move us to the reunion at the settlement.

05-19-2004, 07:56 PM	#6
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	As for Lira's home, that would be Mirkwood. Even though she travelled abroad she always went back there.