The Elven change in character - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Gilthalion*** · 03-06-2001, 11:05 PM

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Re: The Elven change in character

This reminds me of a thread I posted to a long time ago, on the other side of the Misty Mountains...

Quite frankly, I am not only shocked, I am offended that some of you people are even entertaining such a discussion! <img src=wink.gif ALT="

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We know very well that Bilbo set down part of the accounts, and Frodo another, and Sam perhaps even set his hand to some matters.

It is to Tolkien's credit that he set it down as meticulously as he did, and did not try to shape the histories with a simplistic sameness in its treatment of various subjects. That would be revisionism.

The Red Book of Westmarch, and other such lore as has come down to us, should be considered as a histories compiled by different hobbits at different times. Different witnesses will have different views. Frodo was a more serious hobbit than Bilbo, Sam more down to earth than either of them.

Furthermore, there are Elves and then there are Elves! Some have "younger" temperaments. Elrond seems much the same from what we call THE HOBBIT to THE LORD OF THE RINGS. Some younger elves may well be inclined to tease one another and new visitors and especially dwarves in their merriment. (What if you were a teenager for 2000 years?)

To expect all elves to be the same is like expecting all Americans to like the same kind of music.

Try reading Tra La La Lally to a RAP BEAT! (It actually works!) We're obviously just talking about young Gangsta Elves out on the byways of Rivendell.

So please, don't load the table with unreasonable expectations of unchanging continuity. Enjoy the plate that is set before you! History is not so orderly.

Sheeeesh!

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03-06-2001, 11:05 PM	#7
*Gilthalion* Hobbitus Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: South Farthing Posts: 635	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight Posts: 107</TD><TD><img src=http://home.att.net/~robertwgardner/lotrmap.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: The Elven change in character This reminds me of a thread I posted to a long time ago, on the other side of the Misty Mountains... Quite frankly, I am not only shocked, I am offended that some of you people are even entertaining such a discussion! <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> We know very well that Bilbo set down part of the accounts, and Frodo another, and Sam perhaps even set his hand to some matters. It is to Tolkien's credit that he set it down as meticulously as he did, and did not try to shape the histories with a simplistic sameness in its treatment of various subjects. That would be revisionism. The Red Book of Westmarch, and other such lore as has come down to us, should be considered as a histories compiled by different hobbits at different times. Different witnesses will have different views. Frodo was a more serious hobbit than Bilbo, Sam more down to earth than either of them. Furthermore, there are Elves and then there are Elves! Some have "younger" temperaments. Elrond seems much the same from what we call THE HOBBIT to THE LORD OF THE RINGS. Some younger elves may well be inclined to tease one another and new visitors and especially dwarves in their merriment. (What if you were a teenager for 2000 years?) To expect all elves to be the same is like expecting all Americans to like the same kind of music. Try reading Tra La La Lally to a RAP BEAT! (It actually works!) We're obviously just talking about young Gangsta Elves out on the byways of Rivendell. So please, don't load the table with unreasonable expectations of unchanging continuity. Enjoy the plate that is set before you! History is not so orderly. Sheeeesh! <center> *~~~http://www.geocities.com/robertwgardner2000My Bare Bones Webpage</a>~~~* </center></p> __________________ Please read my fan fiction novel THE HOBBITS. Wanna hear me read Tolkien? Gilthalion's Grand Adventures!