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Saraphim · 06-16-2004, 02:05 PM

Perhaps it isn't that hobbits are innately liars or truthful, it is just as I said earlier. That hobbits are like humans in all but size. Humans lie, some more than others.

If I had been in Bilbo's place, I would have probably lied about the Ring when I was first questioned. That doesn't mean that I am a pathological liar, any more than it makes Bilbo or any other hobbit.

If they did indeed send archers, perhaps they were, like mentioned before, simply overlooked.

If they did not, well then, they were lying. But this doesn't make the Shire full of thieves and liars. It makes whoever wrote the book or spread the rumor a liar, or perhaps he just had bad information. Maybe the troop of archers got halfway and chickened out, or got killed, or just came back and never told anyone.

Orofaniel · 06-16-2004, 02:39 PM

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Orofaniel -- I don't think that the Shire is terribly 'flawed'. I would live there in a second, given the option; but I do think that after a very short while I would begin to go mad looking for the kind of discussion and inquisitiveness that characterises communities like the BD! I would also chafe against the provicialism of the place and await with great joy the arrival of the occaisional visitor from outside for a piece of news. I'm also not so sure I would enjoy the rather strict class system, no matter how benign it might be.
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If you lived in the Shire in the first place, and didn't have any other "home", then I have difficulties understanding why you'd go mad. But if you, as a human of today, lived in the Shire, I can see what you mean. I think that's the human nature; to long for an idyllic place, and then afterwards, maybe, flee from it as you seek something more. I don't think you'll only find that in the fictional world; but also in the real world. I wonder how many times I've been looking for something I feel is missing in my everyday life. Not only that but also have I longed for other people for communication, opinions etc. I’m not sure if my point is getting trough here though, but this is the best way I can explain it.

(I'm way off topic here

Sorry)

Cheers,
Orofaniel

06-16-2004, 02:05 PM	#1
Saraphim Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The other side of freezing. Posts: 404	Perhaps it isn't that hobbits are innately liars or truthful, it is just as I said earlier. That hobbits are like humans in all but size. Humans lie, some more than others. If I had been in Bilbo's place, I would have probably lied about the Ring when I was first questioned. That doesn't mean that I am a pathological liar, any more than it makes Bilbo or any other hobbit. If they did indeed send archers, perhaps they were, like mentioned before, simply overlooked. If they did not, well then, they were lying. But this doesn't make the Shire full of thieves and liars. It makes whoever wrote the book or spread the rumor a liar, or perhaps he just had bad information. Maybe the troop of archers got halfway and chickened out, or got killed, or just came back and never told anyone. __________________ I drink Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters! ~ Always remember: pillage BEFORE you burn.