True or False-Movie Version! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gil-Galad · 03-23-2004, 04:41 PM

i have not seen any ToF threads around so i'll start one, but only about the movies

Haldir died in Middle Earth

Lindolirian · 03-23-2004, 04:43 PM

Wait a sec, is it True or False contrasting the book to the movie, or just the movie? Cause in the Movie, yes Haldir died in Middle Earth, but in contrast to the books, he lives.

Gil-Galad · 03-23-2004, 04:51 PM

correct! and it can be both, doesn't really matter

Lindolirian · 03-23-2004, 05:33 PM

I'm still confused. Was the answer true because he did die in the movie or false because the movie was different from the book?

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-23-2004, 07:34 PM

There is another True or False game here, but since that covers both the films and the books, and this game covers the films only, this one is fine to continue.

In answer to Lindolirian's question, I would say that the answer should be based upon what happened in the films. So, for example, if the first statement was "Arwen rode with Frodo to the Ford of Bruinen", the correct answer would be "true", whereas if it was "Frodo rode on Glorfindel's horse to the Ford of Bruinen", the correct answer would be "false". Therefore, the correct answer to "Haldir dies in Middle-earth" must be "true". Does that make sense?

Also, as was discovered on the other thread, if someone answers "true" and the answer is "false" (or vice versa), the correct answer will be obvious to the next person posting. In other words, without more, there is a 50:50 chance of getting the answer correct. To overcome this, I would suggest that anyone answering "false" must also state the correct state of affairs relevant to the question (from the films).

For example:

Q: Merry and Pippin joined Frodo and Sam on their journey to Rivendell at Crickhollow.
A: False. Merry and Pippin joined the journey in Farmer Maggot's field.

If the answer "false" is given without the correct explanation, the questioner will be entitled to state simply that the answer is wrong, and leave it at that. Obviously, when answering "True", no more need be said.

OK. On with the game ...

Lindolirian · 03-23-2004, 07:40 PM

Hmmm Thanks for clearing that up Pan Man.
Well Doesn't seem to be my cup of tea (kinda simplistic) with the whole

Quote:

if someone answers "true" and the answer is "false" (or vice versa), the correct answer will be obvious to the next person posting.

so, I'll just post the next question and get on my way...

True or False? The Hobbits got their swords from the Barrow Downs.

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-23-2004, 07:42 PM

False. The Hobbits got their swords from Aragorn after leaving Bree.

Lindolirian · 03-23-2004, 07:43 PM

Yuppers...

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-23-2004, 07:52 PM

Thank, Lindol.

True or False? Legolas tells Aragorn that the Orcs that have captured Merry and Pippin are headed north-west to Isengard.

The Perky Ent · 03-23-2004, 08:54 PM

False! To my recolection, which is very good for an ent, Legolas says

Quote:

The Uruk's turn Northeast! They're taking them to Isengard! Saruman!

So it's Northeast, not Northwest!

Nimikôi Angarauko · 03-23-2004, 09:31 PM

but that doesnt make sense, geographically speaking, amon hen is east of isengard, as we all know, so to head from amon hen to isengard one would go west. Now the river isen basically goes due south through the gap of rohan so to say isengard is north east they would have to be dunland and if they were to go north east from dunland they would come on the non-wooded side of the mountains, and with all these things said it would make no sense to say north east unless it was some strange typo.

The Perky Ent · 03-23-2004, 10:09 PM

I'm aware of that fact, but that's the way Orlando said it! Mabey it was a good take or something! I don't know

Nimikôi Angarauko · 03-24-2004, 07:52 AM

i think my dain is bramaged new question please before my head explodes

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-24-2004, 08:09 AM

Yup! He may have keen eyesight, but the hearthrob Elf has a lousy sense of direction.

You are quite right, Perky Ent. It was an error that, amazingly, no-one apparently spotted during filming or editing and, even more amazingly, was not over-dubbed for the Extended Edition.

The floor is yours, Perky.

Nimikôi Angarauko · 03-24-2004, 01:12 PM

well to be a bit off topic here the extended editions aren't perfect they have their mistakes like in fellowship extended in one of the documentaries, can't remember which one, Bree is depicted at the southern most tip of the old forest but yeah any who take it perk.

The Perky Ent · 03-24-2004, 08:31 PM

Pippin fought a troll at the Battle of the Black Gate. True or False?

NightKnight · 03-25-2004, 11:50 AM

It's months since I watched it...but false? I don't think there were any trolls there?

Nimikôi Angarauko · 03-25-2004, 02:37 PM

It is true, though they did not actually show the troll attack they something about it on cormallen fields, if i'm not mistaken.

The Perky Ent · 03-25-2004, 04:37 PM

Nope! None are right

, although KN is on the right track...

Arestevana · 03-25-2004, 05:10 PM

False. I believe it was Gimli who fought the troll.

Gil-Galad · 03-25-2004, 06:11 PM

False Aragorn fought the Udun Troll

The Perky Ent · 03-25-2004, 07:55 PM

And the winner is....*drum roll*...Gil-Galad. According to the book, Pippin fought a troll, but because we need to pack in as much viggo action as we can get, Aragorn fought the troll. If you recall, if Frodo didn't destory the ring, according to the movie, Aragorn would have been killed by the troll....not that they wouldn't be killed anyway if frodo hadn't destoryed the ring

Gil-Galad · 03-26-2004, 06:40 PM

Pippin was with Gandalf when he went out to help Faramir and the rest of the Osgiliath defenders

NightKnight · 03-27-2004, 05:26 AM

False. Gandalf rode alone.

Arvedui III · 03-27-2004, 12:23 PM

True. Pippin was with him. Why he was, I dunno.

Gil-Galad · 03-28-2004, 04:59 PM

Avredui is correct!

Arvedui III · 03-30-2004, 08:00 PM

Cool. Herm...True or False? Faramir warned Frodo and Sam about Gollum?

The Perky Ent · 03-30-2004, 09:09 PM

Well....i think true, because Faramir warned Frodo and Sam that if they didn't come, they'd shoot Gollum...so i'd say True!

Gil-Galad · 03-31-2004, 08:11 AM

i think false... Faramir only talked to Gollum about the Cirith Ungol path, not frodo and sam

Elentarimir · 03-31-2004, 11:59 AM

I would say True because in the small extended scene, Faramir questioned Gollum about Cirith Ungol, and then warned Frodo and Sam against going that way. I think he said there was a nameless terror that haunted that pass or something...

Estel'sAngel · 03-31-2004, 04:02 PM

The answer to the question is true, I believe Faramir said: "Be careful, there is evil in his heart." or something to that affect in the movie, right before he grabs Gollum by the throat and says--> "If I find out you harmed them..." again, something to that affect. LOL...

So true, they were warned by Faramir.

Arvedui III · 04-05-2004, 05:06 PM

And the answer is...True. He warned Frodo and Sam about Cirith Ungol in the EE. Very nice scene, that. So Elentarimir has it. Good job.

The Perky Ent · 06-14-2004, 08:39 PM

*babershot quartet* 10 day rule, 10 day rule, 10 day rule, 10 day rule!!!!

True or False, Arathorn killed the orc with the shrunken head on its helmet, and Theoden killed the Pink orc commanding the orcs at Pelennor. Have fun!

Fingolfin II · 06-15-2004, 01:25 AM

False, because Arathorn wasn't in the movies but his son Aragorn was? Is that a trick question or a mistake?

Gil-Galad · 06-15-2004, 06:47 AM

darn...got to me before you! well its false for both anyway...though a Rohirrim did kill Gothmog

The Perky Ent · 06-15-2004, 06:34 PM

D'oh! Stupid typo! You would be wrong Gil-Galad, had I not maken that mistake. It's because in my RPG i'm running, I play Arathorn. I use the word so much more the Aragorn now, and they're very familiar. Anyways, your right. Arathorn didn't kill the two headed orc

and Theoden didn't kill Gothmog. If anything, he was trampled by the horses. BTW, what's with his name, Gothmog? Isn't that suppost to be the Lord of the Balrogs or something? Anyways, your right!

Gil-Galad · 06-16-2004, 06:43 AM

whos right? me? well there were many debates about Gothmog, too me i think hes a dark numenoreon(sp?) who took that name too be honoured among the forces of evil, that or tolkien ran out of names...

Lady of the Pants · 06-23-2004, 02:43 AM

8 days down, 2 to go if Gil-Galad doesn't ask something.

Sorry to be impatient, but True or False is easier than the other threads.

Gil-Galad · 06-23-2004, 07:16 AM

patience...i like a dramatic entrance...or comeback whichever!

very easy

what did Sam say after Frodo got stabbed and they carried him into the Trollshaws

Lindir · 06-23-2004, 10:35 AM

Was it , "look frodo, bilbo's trolls." i dunno

03-23-2004, 04:41 PM	#1
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	True or False-Movie Version! i have not seen any ToF threads around so i'll start one, but only about the movies Haldir died in Middle Earth __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-23-2004, 04:43 PM	#2
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Wait a sec, is it True or False contrasting the book to the movie, or just the movie? Cause in the Movie, yes Haldir died in Middle Earth, but in contrast to the books, he lives. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-23-2004, 04:51 PM	#3
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	correct! and it can be both, doesn't really matter __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-23-2004, 05:33 PM	#4
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I'm still confused. Was the answer true because he did die in the movie or false because the movie was different from the book? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-23-2004, 07:34 PM	#5
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Further Guidance There is another True or False game here, but since that covers both the films and the books, and this game covers the films only, this one is fine to continue. In answer to Lindolirian's question, I would say that the answer should be based upon what happened in the films. So, for example, if the first statement was "Arwen rode with Frodo to the Ford of Bruinen", the correct answer would be "true", whereas if it was "Frodo rode on Glorfindel's horse to the Ford of Bruinen", the correct answer would be "false". Therefore, the correct answer to "Haldir dies in Middle-earth" must be "true". Does that make sense? Also, as was discovered on the other thread, if someone answers "true" and the answer is "false" (or vice versa), the correct answer will be obvious to the next person posting. In other words, without more, there is a 50:50 chance of getting the answer correct. To overcome this, I would suggest that anyone answering "false" must also state the correct state of affairs relevant to the question (from the films). For example: Q: Merry and Pippin joined Frodo and Sam on their journey to Rivendell at Crickhollow. A: False. Merry and Pippin joined the journey in Farmer Maggot's field. If the answer "false" is given without the correct explanation, the questioner will be entitled to state simply that the answer is wrong, and leave it at that. Obviously, when answering "True", no more need be said. OK. On with the game ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-23-2004, 07:42 PM	#7
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	False. The Hobbits got their swords from Aragorn after leaving Bree. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-23-2004, 07:43 PM	#8
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Yuppers... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-23-2004, 07:52 PM	#9
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Thank, Lindol. True or False? Legolas tells Aragorn that the Orcs that have captured Merry and Pippin are headed north-west to Isengard. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-23-2004, 09:31 PM	#11
Nimikôi Angarauko Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: my realm is in the Void Posts: 20	but that doesnt make sense, geographically speaking, amon hen is east of isengard, as we all know, so to head from amon hen to isengard one would go west. Now the river isen basically goes due south through the gap of rohan so to say isengard is north east they would have to be dunland and if they were to go north east from dunland they would come on the non-wooded side of the mountains, and with all these things said it would make no sense to say north east unless it was some strange typo.

03-23-2004, 10:09 PM	#12
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	I'm aware of that fact, but that's the way Orlando said it! Mabey it was a good take or something! I don't know __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

03-24-2004, 07:52 AM	#13
Nimikôi Angarauko Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: my realm is in the Void Posts: 20	i think my dain is bramaged new question please before my head explodes

03-24-2004, 08:09 AM	#14
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Clueless Elf! Yup! He may have keen eyesight, but the hearthrob Elf has a lousy sense of direction. You are quite right, Perky Ent. It was an error that, amazingly, no-one apparently spotted during filming or editing and, even more amazingly, was not over-dubbed for the Extended Edition. The floor is yours, Perky. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-24-2004, 01:12 PM	#15
Nimikôi Angarauko Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: my realm is in the Void Posts: 20	well to be a bit off topic here the extended editions aren't perfect they have their mistakes like in fellowship extended in one of the documentaries, can't remember which one, Bree is depicted at the southern most tip of the old forest but yeah any who take it perk.

03-24-2004, 08:31 PM	#16
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Pippin fought a troll at the Battle of the Black Gate. True or False? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

03-25-2004, 11:50 AM	#17
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	It's months since I watched it...but false? I don't think there were any trolls there? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-25-2004, 02:37 PM	#18
Nimikôi Angarauko Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: my realm is in the Void Posts: 20	It is true, though they did not actually show the troll attack they something about it on cormallen fields, if i'm not mistaken.

03-25-2004, 04:37 PM	#19
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Nope! None are right, although KN is on the right track... __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

03-25-2004, 05:10 PM	#20
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	False. I believe it was Gimli who fought the troll.

03-25-2004, 06:11 PM	#21
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	False Aragorn fought the Udun Troll __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-25-2004, 07:55 PM	#22
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	And the winner is....drum roll...Gil-Galad. According to the book, Pippin fought a troll, but because we need to pack in as much viggo action as we can get, Aragorn fought the troll. If you recall, if Frodo didn't destory the ring, according to the movie, Aragorn would have been killed by the troll....not that they wouldn't be killed anyway if frodo hadn't destoryed the ring __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

03-26-2004, 06:40 PM	#23
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Pippin was with Gandalf when he went out to help Faramir and the rest of the Osgiliath defenders __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-27-2004, 05:26 AM	#24
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	False. Gandalf rode alone. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-27-2004, 12:23 PM	#25
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	True. Pippin was with him. Why he was, I dunno. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

03-28-2004, 04:59 PM	#26
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Avredui is correct! __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-30-2004, 08:00 PM	#27
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	Cool. Herm...True or False? Faramir warned Frodo and Sam about Gollum? __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

03-30-2004, 09:09 PM	#28
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Well....i think true, because Faramir warned Frodo and Sam that if they didn't come, they'd shoot Gollum...so i'd say True! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

03-31-2004, 08:11 AM	#29
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	i think false... Faramir only talked to Gollum about the Cirith Ungol path, not frodo and sam __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-31-2004, 11:59 AM	#30
Elentarimir Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Is this a trick question? Posts: 125	I would say True because in the small extended scene, Faramir questioned Gollum about Cirith Ungol, and then warned Frodo and Sam against going that way. I think he said there was a nameless terror that haunted that pass or something... __________________ Due to lack of funding, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

03-31-2004, 04:02 PM	#31
Estel'sAngel Newly Deceased Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California and Texas Posts: 10	The answer to the question is true, I believe Faramir said: "Be careful, there is evil in his heart." or something to that affect in the movie, right before he grabs Gollum by the throat and says--> "If I find out you harmed them..." again, something to that affect. LOL... So true, they were warned by Faramir. __________________ All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost;

04-05-2004, 05:06 PM	#32
Arvedui III Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Rohan, with Carolina on my mind Posts: 629	And the answer is...True. He warned Frodo and Sam about Cirith Ungol in the EE. Very nice scene, that. So Elentarimir has it. Good job. __________________ I have no idea what you just said, but I'm inspired!

06-14-2004, 08:39 PM	#33
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	babershot quartet 10 day rule, 10 day rule, 10 day rule, 10 day rule!!!! True or False, Arathorn killed the orc with the shrunken head on its helmet, and Theoden killed the Pink orc commanding the orcs at Pelennor. Have fun! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-15-2004, 01:25 AM	#34
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	False, because Arathorn wasn't in the movies but his son Aragorn was? Is that a trick question or a mistake? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-15-2004, 06:47 AM	#35
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	darn...got to me before you! well its false for both anyway...though a Rohirrim did kill Gothmog __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-15-2004, 06:34 PM	#36
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	D'oh! Stupid typo! You would be wrong Gil-Galad, had I not maken that mistake. It's because in my RPG i'm running, I play Arathorn. I use the word so much more the Aragorn now, and they're very familiar. Anyways, your right. Arathorn didn't kill the two headed orc and Theoden didn't kill Gothmog. If anything, he was trampled by the horses. BTW, what's with his name, Gothmog? Isn't that suppost to be the Lord of the Balrogs or something? Anyways, your right! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-16-2004, 06:43 AM	#37
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	whos right? me? well there were many debates about Gothmog, too me i think hes a dark numenoreon(sp?) who took that name too be honoured among the forces of evil, that or tolkien ran out of names... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.