What do you think will be in the EE? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Knight of Gondor · 07-16-2004, 09:57 PM

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If I remember right, they show 4 orcs, but Sam only kills 3. They never show what happened to the 4th orc in the theatrical release, so it would correct an 'error' that I'm sure is listed on many websites if they showed him running away to get the news/mithril shirt out (I know that Grishnak wasn't one of the 4 orcs there on the steps) in the EE.

Um..."that's for Mr. Frodo! {1} And the Shire! {2} AND THAT'S FOR MY OLD GAFFER! {3} ... Not if I stick you first! {4}.

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But my point still stands. How does the Mouth get hold of the Mithril Shirt and knowledge of the Hobbits when Shagrat gets skewered by Sam and there appear to be no other Orcs left alive in the Tower? It is possible that Shagrat escapes in the EE, although that would be quite a big change.

Relying in info from the video game, one orc that was lying nearly unconscious gets up, grabs the shirt, ducks down the passage, and runs out the tunnel.

The Only Real Estel · 07-17-2004, 06:24 PM

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Um..."that's for Mr. Frodo! {1} And the Shire! {2} AND THAT'S FOR MY OLD GAFFER! {3} ... Not if I stick you first! {4}.

Are you sure Gorbag (the green one) was the 4th? I didn't think he was there, but I guess he could have been...

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one orc that was lying nearly unconscious gets up, grabs the shirt, ducks down the passage, and runs out the tunnel

That would work perfectly fine, although it might seem a little strange that a random orc happens to grab the shirt while saving his own life. Mark it down to him being an especially greedy orc I guess

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Nimiriel · 07-18-2004, 07:48 AM

Well, I'm with you guys on most of what's been said here. I do have a comment though: I'm pretty shure PJ has stated that there will be a bloopers reel for each of the main characters (my question being 'How many does he concider MCs?'), though I have no reference to where or when this statement was made. Also I heard a rumor (nothing more, but I cling to it with high hopes) that the EE will last a total of 290 mins! (4 hours and 50 mins)... It'd be AMAZING if that's true!!!

Well, that's all for now guys and yes (who ever said so somewhere up the thread) it IS great to be back at the Downs!

Mithalwen · 07-18-2004, 11:23 AM

All I would say is that in some respects the other EEs are going to be a better indicator of what happens than the cinema version .... I mean in FOTR there is a huge difference between what happens in Lorien ...... just a thought....

But if there is no more to the Faramir / Aragorn / Eowyn thing than that smug look... I will be annoyed

Essex · 07-18-2004, 04:56 PM

Knight, re your opinion on there not being an epilouge on the rotk EE

I take heart from what Jackson says near the begining of the FOTR EE commentary. He stated that the Galadriel character would 'bookend' the films with a prolouge/epilouge.

so I reckon something has been done, but whether it gets included I'm not sure, but hope so.

I mean it's the only book I've ever read where the Index makes me cry.........!

07-20-2004, 10:31 AM

slightly random comment, but i did formerly find a sneaky way to know what was in the EE.

Having bought the sticker/picture book for TTT(to be used to help with painting the games workshop models), i noticed there where bits of the story in there that hadn't appeared in the movie.... sure enough, when the EE came out, these bits were included.

i take it they must have written this book before they had finalised the editing.... dunno if it's true for the rotk one, but ya never know.

D.D. (formerly Ringfenwen.... many years ago!)

07-18-2004, 07:48 AM	#3
Nimiriel Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2002 Location: Denmark - a long forgotten part of the Great Woods Posts: 37	Well, I'm with you guys on most of what's been said here. I do have a comment though: I'm pretty shure PJ has stated that there will be a bloopers reel for each of the main characters (my question being 'How many does he concider MCs?'), though I have no reference to where or when this statement was made. Also I heard a rumor (nothing more, but I cling to it with high hopes) that the EE will last a total of 290 mins! (4 hours and 50 mins)... It'd be AMAZING if that's true!!! Well, that's all for now guys and yes (who ever said so somewhere up the thread) it IS great to be back at the Downs! __________________ So says Nimiríel Stardaughter Writing original fantasy? Meet the Wordweavers at Fww

07-18-2004, 11:23 AM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	All I would say is that in some respects the other EEs are going to be a better indicator of what happens than the cinema version .... I mean in FOTR there is a huge difference between what happens in Lorien ...... just a thought.... But if there is no more to the Faramir / Aragorn / Eowyn thing than that smug look... I will be annoyed __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-20-2004, 10:31 AM	#6
drunken dragon Guest Posts: n/a	sneak peak at EE slightly random comment, but i did formerly find a sneaky way to know what was in the EE. Having bought the sticker/picture book for TTT(to be used to help with painting the games workshop models), i noticed there where bits of the story in there that hadn't appeared in the movie.... sure enough, when the EE came out, these bits were included. i take it they must have written this book before they had finalised the editing.... dunno if it's true for the rotk one, but ya never know. D.D. (formerly Ringfenwen.... many years ago!)

07-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#5
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	Knight, re your opinion on there not being an epilouge on the rotk EE I take heart from what Jackson says near the begining of the FOTR EE commentary. He stated that the Galadriel character would 'bookend' the films with a prolouge/epilouge. so I reckon something has been done, but whether it gets included I'm not sure, but hope so. I mean it's the only book I've ever read where the Index makes me cry.........!