Annoying experts

[Knight of Gondor]

I have not met many annoying "experts." Okay, only one

Welcome, Araréiel! And yes, even one annoying expert counts.

and I couldn't stand him at all.

Well if he was nice, then he wouldn’t belong on the thread about annoying experts, now would he?

there've only been extremely annoying newbies who don't even care to learn, yet like to act like know-it-alls to impress people.

In which case you should, as you probably already have, visit the Annoying Amateurs thread. If nothing else, it will teach you how to type amateur without making a spelling mistake!

Are there any of those "experts" in California? Or others who want to learn more?

What you have to do is educate yourself to the best of your ability. And remember that when I say “expert”, we all mean as best as a person can hope to become as a civilian Tolkien fan. Yes, technically, no one but Tolkien and his son can be experts.

I really don't think anyone is an "expert" at Tolkien, maybe not even Tolkien himself.

I would think that Tolkien would know the most about his works...! But as I said above, when I say expert, I only mean as far or high as the average person can go in “expert” status.

[Knight of Gondor]

No matter what you know there is always much more you can learn.

Do I detect a Ken Ham quote? “There’s always an infinite amount more to know, which means no matter how much you know there’s always more to know, which means no matter how much you know, you don’t know how much more there is to know anyway, which means no matter how much you do know or don’t know, in relation to what it is, whatever that is, so let’s face it, you just don’t know much at all.”

I will correct people but as the knight of gondor posted, not really in an "arrogant" way.

Yes sir, by setting the proper example, I’m a knight a fellow can look up to!

To tell you the truth, I've almost never met anyone who is even a bit into Tolkien... So tell me, is your environment crowded with Tolkien amateurs, experts and haters?

I don’t meet up with too many Tolkien fans either, Mariska Greenleaf, but it’s a matter of my environment. You have to know where to hang out. I’ve attended a Lord of the Rings church study group, and a lecture or two at the local college, but sometimes, the experts or amateurs are on THIS board!

So I guess that when I would meet an annoying expert, I would kinda like it...

You don’t want him or her to be annoying! We’re not complaining about self-styled experts or amateurs themselves, we’re talking about how they act arrogant, either way.

[Knight of Gondor]

Yes, yes, I've continually had run-ins with... ir....shall we say: a published writer.
He's doing tours, and regularly posts everywhere, I'm sure even here, too. I like his work very much, but when he grabs onto a thread and maims it unmercilessly with facts that he has been looking up for years (professionally!), I tend to get a bit flustered. Sometimes he's amazing; other times, he's just plain boring.
Oh, well. I'm sure jealousy enters into this. It's just a shame I didn't do what he's doing, years ago. I could have been famous. BAH!

Are you sure this isn’t annoying to you just because he knows so much? Because just knowing a lot doesn’t make them annoying; they have to act annoying too. And also, you neglected to mention WHO THIS PERSON IS!

I don't mind experts, since I can learn a lot from them

Isn’t this the same Meela that used to be so in like with Denethor? Looks like we’ve moved on to Éomer, eh?

[Diamond18]

Middle aged, well-of, happily married and well employed, parent of two blondish blue-eyed infants and, of course, psychologically balanced?

Um...probably not exactly, since I’m young, poor, single, unemployed (I’m still a student), I don’t have any kids, and I’m sure one or two people could contest the claim of being psychologically balanced.

KoG, I believe that H-I was describing SPM as the example of an ITF. (Er, that is, Ideal Tolkien Fan).

[The Saucepan Man]

KoG, I believe that H-I was describing SPM as the example of an ITF. (Er, that is, Ideal Tolkien Fan).

Not sure that I'm all that happy at being cited as some sort of "benchmark" on a thread dealing with annoying experts. I can be annoying, but rarely (I hope) in the contect of discussing Tolkien, and I am most certainly no expert.

That aside, I would respectfully decline the honour of "ITF". Quite apart from anything else, I firmly believe that there is in fact no such thing as an ideal Tolkien fan.

As for being middle-aged, well gee thanks! I like to think that I have a few more years yet (although, alas, all too few).

[ninlaith]

What I highly dislike is insistant incorrect experts. I've challenged many of my friends to suggestions that they have made about certain parts of the books and even though they're wrong, and you know it, they will argue with you until the end of time. And it is so frustrating. Also when it comes to quoting a certain line in one of the movies and they keep getting it wrong and you try to correct them and they say they're right. BLAH!!!

[Gil-Galad]

If you like to read other threads like this, check out my Annoying Amatuer thread...page 3 i think is my award-winning post...all i know its the first post on one of its pages