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Lathriel · 07-28-2004, 11:59 PM

If they made a remake the director would have a really tough job to match with PJ's achievement.

Also because I think that if the designs were too similar to PJ's version the movie wouldn't be interesting. The director would have to be very original since a lot of people see LOTR the way PJ sees it.

I think a remake would be interesting.

Morsul the Dark · 07-29-2004, 12:15 AM

movie was great well written and everything just more scenes could be added

Sam looking in the mirror scouring of the shire and expand on Frodo's plan to sell Bag End and indicate the 19 year difference these arent ultimately important but i think they are important enough

Encaitare · 07-29-2004, 02:18 PM

::gets big puppy-dog eyes::

Ooh, Saraphim, you MUST make a Silmarillion movie, just to make us all very very happy! I was actually wondering the other day if anyone ever would do it... but it would be truly awesome.

InklingElf · 07-29-2004, 03:12 PM

Silmarillion would be difficult -- you'd have to choose specific stories...and if you wanted to do it in chronological order all the way through -- you'd have to be some super-human like PJ. lots of money...etc...

I doubt anyone would even attempt a remake of LOTR for a loooong time. It's already considered a classic. And even if someone tried to make it again it would be critisized and compared to the original movies.

Arwen Imladris · 07-30-2004, 12:59 PM

I think that there could be a remake. The people who made LOTR also ended up making a lot of money. There are a lot of people who will want to try and get into that market again. It will take some time, but I definatly think that LOTR could be remade. Since the hardcore fans are mostly fans of the books, we will be able to deal with another actor playing the character of Frodo, for example. Now that they have had one run through, the next people who make it will know what they can get away with and what will make people mad.

A lot of the "mistakes" PJ made (like putting the elves at helms deep) he realized to late that it was not required. He originally put the elves there to get Arwen closer to Aragorn. He took Arwen out, but he had already filmed a lot of elves at helms deep and it was too late to change. A new LOTR could improve on the story in many ways. There will also likely be a bigger budget because of PJ's sucess.

I also know that a lot of people who have been inspired by LOTR. My sister, for example, is doing Film Studies, partly because she wants to be able to make things as good as LOTR. I'm sure that there are many who would give up everything to make LOTR again.

Saraphim · 07-30-2004, 02:42 PM

Well, Encaitare, I am quite serious about making the Silmarillion into a movie. Yesterday I was going through the book and looking for imperative scenes and I ended up with a two page list.

And I've got tiny writing.

So this is going to be difficult. I've decided to finish High School before I really get started, or I'll fail miserably. (at both school and the movie

)

Meela · 08-02-2004, 02:49 PM

I'm currently writing a screenplay for a remake of Lord of the Rings. And Glorfindel's going right in.

The Silmarillion isn't the right material for a movie. It's more suited to a three or four part drama, which is how I'm planning it at the moment. I've seen a lot of great adaptations, all made into fantasy/entertainment dramas of two lengthy parts, and I see the Sil. as being successful in the same style.

I'll probably look into making Lotr about 8 or 10 years from now. There's no set time for remakes or two movies of the same storyline, although I think with an epic like Lotr it should be given enough time to be 'stored away'.

I'm not planning to use a lot of special effects. I'll try and shoot on a location as often as possible, ie. build my own sets like Edoras was built, or find a suitable spot for areas such as the Dead Marshes and just glam it up. I suppose in 8 or 10 years there'll be nothing but special effects, which is why I'm even more determined to 'go against the trend'. I like to do things differently.

I will bring in Glorfindel and various other left out characters, and use as much of the book 'directly' as I can get away with. I don't disagree with the over-use of Arwen, and I will include her and the romance in my movie, although only in the right places.
It's not really a case of improving, PJ did a great job in his own right. Not everything in the book can be successfully transferred to the screen, and I also expect to make changes where I feel the book isn't working towards movie material.
Tom Bombadil and the gang don't really work with the rest of the story as a whole. I'll either shoot the material and make a bonus disc for the book fans, or write him into a separate drama piece, like I'm doing with the Sil.

And I'm hoping to bring back Sean Bean.

07-28-2004, 11:59 PM	#1
Lathriel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through Middle-Earth (Sadly in Alberta and not ME) Posts: 612	If they made a remake the director would have a really tough job to match with PJ's achievement. Also because I think that if the designs were too similar to PJ's version the movie wouldn't be interesting. The director would have to be very original since a lot of people see LOTR the way PJ sees it. I think a remake would be interesting. __________________ Back again

07-29-2004, 12:15 AM	#2
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	movie was great well written and everything just more scenes could be added Sam looking in the mirror scouring of the shire and expand on Frodo's plan to sell Bag End and indicate the 19 year difference these arent ultimately important but i think they are important enough __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

07-30-2004, 12:59 PM	#5
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	I think that there could be a remake. The people who made LOTR also ended up making a lot of money. There are a lot of people who will want to try and get into that market again. It will take some time, but I definatly think that LOTR could be remade. Since the hardcore fans are mostly fans of the books, we will be able to deal with another actor playing the character of Frodo, for example. Now that they have had one run through, the next people who make it will know what they can get away with and what will make people mad. A lot of the "mistakes" PJ made (like putting the elves at helms deep) he realized to late that it was not required. He originally put the elves there to get Arwen closer to Aragorn. He took Arwen out, but he had already filmed a lot of elves at helms deep and it was too late to change. A new LOTR could improve on the story in many ways. There will also likely be a bigger budget because of PJ's sucess. I also know that a lot of people who have been inspired by LOTR. My sister, for example, is doing Film Studies, partly because she wants to be able to make things as good as LOTR. I'm sure that there are many who would give up everything to make LOTR again. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

07-30-2004, 02:42 PM	#6
Saraphim Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The other side of freezing. Posts: 404	Well, Encaitare, I am quite serious about making the Silmarillion into a movie. Yesterday I was going through the book and looking for imperative scenes and I ended up with a two page list. And I've got tiny writing. So this is going to be difficult. I've decided to finish High School before I really get started, or I'll fail miserably. (at both school and the movie ) __________________ I drink Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters! ~ Always remember: pillage BEFORE you burn.

08-02-2004, 02:49 PM	#7
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	I'm currently writing a screenplay for a remake of Lord of the Rings. And Glorfindel's going right in. The Silmarillion isn't the right material for a movie. It's more suited to a three or four part drama, which is how I'm planning it at the moment. I've seen a lot of great adaptations, all made into fantasy/entertainment dramas of two lengthy parts, and I see the Sil. as being successful in the same style. I'll probably look into making Lotr about 8 or 10 years from now. There's no set time for remakes or two movies of the same storyline, although I think with an epic like Lotr it should be given enough time to be 'stored away'. I'm not planning to use a lot of special effects. I'll try and shoot on a location as often as possible, ie. build my own sets like Edoras was built, or find a suitable spot for areas such as the Dead Marshes and just glam it up. I suppose in 8 or 10 years there'll be nothing but special effects, which is why I'm even more determined to 'go against the trend'. I like to do things differently. I will bring in Glorfindel and various other left out characters, and use as much of the book 'directly' as I can get away with. I don't disagree with the over-use of Arwen, and I will include her and the romance in my movie, although only in the right places. It's not really a case of improving, PJ did a great job in his own right. Not everything in the book can be successfully transferred to the screen, and I also expect to make changes where I feel the book isn't working towards movie material. Tom Bombadil and the gang don't really work with the rest of the story as a whole. I'll either shoot the material and make a bonus disc for the book fans, or write him into a separate drama piece, like I'm doing with the Sil. And I'm hoping to bring back Sean Bean. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

07-29-2004, 02:18 PM	#3
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	::gets big puppy-dog eyes:: Ooh, Saraphim, you MUST make a Silmarillion movie, just to make us all very very happy! I was actually wondering the other day if anyone ever would do it... but it would be truly awesome.

07-29-2004, 03:12 PM	#4
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	Silmarillion would be difficult -- you'd have to choose specific stories...and if you wanted to do it in chronological order all the way through -- you'd have to be some super-human like PJ. lots of money...etc... I doubt anyone would even attempt a remake of LOTR for a loooong time. It's already considered a classic. And even if someone tried to make it again it would be critisized and compared to the original movies.