What if, wounded by the Morgul blade, Frodo had fade before reaching Rivendell? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

ElenCala Isil · 08-01-2004, 08:20 PM

Adding in my two cents on what Spawny mentioned... I wonder if Frodo would not simply go mad, as the 'darkness' took over him. I agree that it most likely would not wholly change his personality, and 'Good' Frodo would still be there. But perhaps he would be so taken by the pain of becoming wraith-like, that his mission would not be the first thing on his mind. What I have to question, is how he'd react to those around him. Would he then go mad and do something rash to his companions, or would he simply run off until he was eventually led by the power of the Ring to Mordor, and to his doom? Or maybe even both?

My curiosity arouses in what Frodo's mindset would be like. Whether he'd be scared, pained, or just plain taken over by some 'power' in him from the wound? I don't believe, as I've mentioned before, that it would make him immediately 'evil', per se, but in a situation as such, it's rather easy to assume that he'd have little control over what he was doing.

Take Nienor, for instance. When she was overcome by her own darkness, she wasn't really in any state of mind to think rationally - or so one could conclude. All she did was run in fear.

Taking that into account, I should like to think that Frodo would react in much the same way. Though, I would imagine his suffrage would be worse. So, perhaps he would be 'trapped in this evilness, and only be able to watch' in that he wouldn't really be able to think rationally. But that's just my opinion. ^^

ninlaith · 08-02-2004, 09:59 AM

I think if Frodo had faded, which thank goodness he didn't, Sam could have taken the ring. He was so strong of character he could have possibly made it. The only thing that makes me question him was how he didn't trust gollum. He was right in not trusting him but he wouldn't have found his way to Mordor without him. This is all only if Glorfindel had taken the ring from Frodo before he faded. If he hadn't then Middle-Earth would have been lost. I think Sam probably would have felt it was his duty to complete his masters work.

Encaitare · 08-02-2004, 11:10 AM

I agree, Ninlaith. Sam probably could have completed the Quest, provided that he found the way into Mordor all by his onesie.

08-01-2004, 08:20 PM	#1
ElenCala Isil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere Else Posts: 439	Adding in my two cents on what Spawny mentioned... I wonder if Frodo would not simply go mad, as the 'darkness' took over him. I agree that it most likely would not wholly change his personality, and 'Good' Frodo would still be there. But perhaps he would be so taken by the pain of becoming wraith-like, that his mission would not be the first thing on his mind. What I have to question, is how he'd react to those around him. Would he then go mad and do something rash to his companions, or would he simply run off until he was eventually led by the power of the Ring to Mordor, and to his doom? Or maybe even both? My curiosity arouses in what Frodo's mindset would be like. Whether he'd be scared, pained, or just plain taken over by some 'power' in him from the wound? I don't believe, as I've mentioned before, that it would make him immediately 'evil', per se, but in a situation as such, it's rather easy to assume that he'd have little control over what he was doing. Take Nienor, for instance. When she was overcome by her own darkness, she wasn't really in any state of mind to think rationally - or so one could conclude. All she did was run in fear. Taking that into account, I should like to think that Frodo would react in much the same way. Though, I would imagine his suffrage would be worse. So, perhaps he would be 'trapped in this evilness, and only be able to watch' in that he wouldn't really be able to think rationally. But that's just my opinion. ^^ __________________ Prevent Merry-abuse today! Join the S.A.M. (That's the Save-A-Merry foundation) Rivendell brought to you by the long lost sister of the guy who be short.

08-02-2004, 09:59 AM	#2
ninlaith Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in my hobbit hole Posts: 204	I think if Frodo had faded, which thank goodness he didn't, Sam could have taken the ring. He was so strong of character he could have possibly made it. The only thing that makes me question him was how he didn't trust gollum. He was right in not trusting him but he wouldn't have found his way to Mordor without him. This is all only if Glorfindel had taken the ring from Frodo before he faded. If he hadn't then Middle-Earth would have been lost. I think Sam probably would have felt it was his duty to complete his masters work. __________________ "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve!"-Bilbo Baggins

08-02-2004, 11:10 AM	#3
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	I agree, Ninlaith. Sam probably could have completed the Quest, provided that he found the way into Mordor all by his onesie.