uh.. wots a maiar ???/ - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Encaitare · 08-09-2004, 06:16 PM

Hmm... that's interesting about Melian possibly being an Umaia. Generally the "subcategories" seem to be defined in terms of good and evil, but in this case it isn't. To put Melian and Ungoliant in the same category would otherwise seem totally impossible.

Neithan · 12-21-2004, 10:13 AM

Personally I don't think that Melian was an Umaia. She went back to Lorien in Valinor after Thingol died after all. Also, I always thought that the term Umaia referred to only those Maiar who turned evil (Sauron, Balrogs), but that may just be because it reminds me of the Quenya word Umea "evil", so that might not have any truth to it.

tar-ancalime · 12-21-2004, 08:55 PM

I'd also like to point out (though on this thread most are using the correct terms) that "maiar" is plural. I have noticed in other threads (and the tongue-in-cheek title of this one) people using it as singular. And being an easily peeved person, it's really beginning to make my hair stand on end. One Maia, two Maiar. One Vala, two Valar. One Ainu, two Ainur. One Umaia, two Umaiar. One potato, two potato, three potato, four. There--I feel much better now.

(I sheepishly recognize that my inability to place the appropriate accent marks over many of these names, including my own bloody screen name, is probably raising others' hackles as much as this raises mine.

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HerenIstarion · 12-22-2004, 01:33 AM

The special charachers codes are available as part of FAQ answers (not the 'official' one above, but posted by Mr. Underhill, sticky one immediately up there on the Novices and Newcomers subforum

Feel free to use those. If such an option does not suit you well, 'copy-paste' option from Word processor is also applicable. In Word itself, use Insert-->Symbol menu on the main taskbar above.

Yöŭ cán gêt wóndérfûl rësűlts

cheers

Legolas · 12-22-2004, 11:30 AM

The misuse of the plural form of the word is just another part of the satire.

thom is definately a maiar!

Neithan · 12-22-2004, 12:00 PM

great link HerenIstarion now I can finally spell those words correctly

as for the Maia, Maiar thing it is easy for someone who knows the difference to still get it wrong because of a typo and I always take that into account before correcting people.

Lush · 12-24-2004, 12:48 AM

I have one thing to say. And maybe Estelyn will remember this and maybe she won't.

This was my favourite thread title on the Downs, by far. It said so much, all in one semi-sentence. Of course it was quickly and cruelly deleted, but I shall attempt to immortalize it here for future generations:

Quote:

wot an eru??????????

A no less important question. Something we can all move on to once everybody understands wots a maiar.

12-21-2004, 10:13 AM	#2
Neithan Wight Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 126	Personally I don't think that Melian was an Umaia. She went back to Lorien in Valinor after Thingol died after all. Also, I always thought that the term Umaia referred to only those Maiar who turned evil (Sauron, Balrogs), but that may just be because it reminds me of the Quenya word Umea "evil", so that might not have any truth to it. __________________ If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see.~Henry David Thoreau

12-21-2004, 08:55 PM	#3
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	just being persnickety... I'd also like to point out (though on this thread most are using the correct terms) that "maiar" is plural. I have noticed in other threads (and the tongue-in-cheek title of this one) people using it as singular. And being an easily peeved person, it's really beginning to make my hair stand on end. One Maia, two Maiar. One Vala, two Valar. One Ainu, two Ainur. One Umaia, two Umaiar. One potato, two potato, three potato, four. There--I feel much better now. (I sheepishly recognize that my inability to place the appropriate accent marks over many of these names, including my own bloody screen name, is probably raising others' hackles as much as this raises mine. ) __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

12-22-2004, 01:33 AM	#4
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	The special charachers codes are available as part of FAQ answers (not the 'official' one above, but posted by Mr. Underhill, sticky one immediately up there on the Novices and Newcomers subforum Feel free to use those. If such an option does not suit you well, 'copy-paste' option from Word processor is also applicable. In Word itself, use Insert-->Symbol menu on the main taskbar above. Yöŭ cán gêt wóndérfûl rësűlts cheers __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

12-22-2004, 11:30 AM	#5
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	The misuse of the plural form of the word is just another part of the satire. thom is definately a maiar! __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

12-22-2004, 12:00 PM	#6
Neithan Wight Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 126	great link HerenIstarion now I can finally spell those words correctly as for the Maia, Maiar thing it is easy for someone who knows the difference to still get it wrong because of a typo and I always take that into account before correcting people. __________________ If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see.~Henry David Thoreau

08-09-2004, 06:16 PM	#1
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Hmm... that's interesting about Melian possibly being an Umaia. Generally the "subcategories" seem to be defined in terms of good and evil, but in this case it isn't. To put Melian and Ungoliant in the same category would otherwise seem totally impossible.