Did the Ring Shrink? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Perky Ent · 08-11-2004, 10:06 PM

Did they? I never noticed that effect! I'll have to watch for it. But I always thought the ring would slip because it would abandone it's owner, like it did for Isildur and Gollum. It betrayed them. I don't think it had to do with size!

Morsul the Dark · 08-11-2004, 10:37 PM

watch when isildur picks up the ring

and heres the quote

"it did not seem always of the same size or weight it shrank or expanded in an odd way."

page 46 FOTR 4th paragraph last three lines

The Perky Ent · 08-11-2004, 10:40 PM

Maybe it's because when Sauron lost power, it began shrinking without it's owner. That poses a further question! If Sauron never got the ring, and was defeated, but the ring was never destoryed, would it have shrinked out of exsistance?

Morsul the Dark · 08-11-2004, 10:44 PM

I highly doubt it "at any rate he was too large and heavy for a hobbit" Tom Bombadil...

Bombadil could wear the ring without much trouble getting it on and he was bigger than the hobbits so therefore we can assume the ring grew enough for it to fit on his finger

Oh and another thing if it had grown too small for the big folk to wear why would gandalf have to worry about carrying it he would not be able to wear it

The Perky Ent · 08-11-2004, 11:23 PM

You don't necessarily need to have it on to have it's power effect. Take boromir.

ohtatyaro · 08-12-2004, 01:19 AM

It was changing its size as it's bearers changed. I mean, hobbits fingers must be smaller, right? But it fitted Bilbo, and it fitted Isildur

It would not have shrinked itself away if Sauron never got it. But it's influence was not pwerful when Sauron was weak. I mean, Gollum had it for 5 centuries and was not completely bad

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-12-2004, 07:04 AM

About a year and a half ago, in all my newbie glory, I started a Ring-based thread and put forward a rather naive suggestion. There was one Downer who replied simply; The Ring is very powerful, it's not just some cheap magic trick.

Or words to that effect. That statement is relevant here. The Ring has brains, so to speak, and is capable of all sorts.

08-11-2004, 10:06 PM	#1
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Did they? I never noticed that effect! I'll have to watch for it. But I always thought the ring would slip because it would abandone it's owner, like it did for Isildur and Gollum. It betrayed them. I don't think it had to do with size! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

08-11-2004, 10:37 PM	#2
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	watch when isildur picks up the ring and heres the quote "it did not seem always of the same size or weight it shrank or expanded in an odd way." page 46 FOTR 4th paragraph last three lines __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-11-2004, 10:40 PM	#3
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Maybe it's because when Sauron lost power, it began shrinking without it's owner. That poses a further question! If Sauron never got the ring, and was defeated, but the ring was never destoryed, would it have shrinked out of exsistance? __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

08-11-2004, 10:44 PM	#4
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	I highly doubt it "at any rate he was too large and heavy for a hobbit" Tom Bombadil... Bombadil could wear the ring without much trouble getting it on and he was bigger than the hobbits so therefore we can assume the ring grew enough for it to fit on his finger Oh and another thing if it had grown too small for the big folk to wear why would gandalf have to worry about carrying it he would not be able to wear it __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-11-2004, 11:23 PM	#5
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	You don't necessarily need to have it on to have it's power effect. Take boromir. __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

08-12-2004, 01:19 AM	#6
ohtatyaro Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: here, there, everywhere... Posts: 121	It was changing its size as it's bearers changed. I mean, hobbits fingers must be smaller, right? But it fitted Bilbo, and it fitted Isildur It would not have shrinked itself away if Sauron never got it. But it's influence was not pwerful when Sauron was weak. I mean, Gollum had it for 5 centuries and was not completely bad __________________ Reading this sig costs three Galleons, nine Sickles, and a Knut. Pay up!

08-12-2004, 07:04 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	About a year and a half ago, in all my newbie glory, I started a Ring-based thread and put forward a rather naive suggestion. There was one Downer who replied simply; The Ring is very powerful, it's not just some cheap magic trick. Or words to that effect. That statement is relevant here. The Ring has brains, so to speak, and is capable of all sorts. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond