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Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-20-2004, 08:09 AM

Celeborn sure had a good time of it!

Anyway, he could not possibly feel threatened by Gimli. He was an utterly different species for crying out loud. If anything, Gimli's actions would have made Celeborn feel even better. Married for all those years and guys are still drooling over your wife, that would make any Elf feel good.

But, if I can avoid being silly here, I am going to agree with Imladris about the type of love on display. It was not that kind of desire.

Boromir88 · 08-20-2004, 09:40 AM

With the Feanor incident, there is a thread about Galadriel's hair, and Feanor wanted her hair for all the wrong reasons, why he was turned down and Gimli wasn't. Maybe the "flirting" was too strong a word, I think admire, or even "unrequited love" works better.

I agree with Eomer Celeborn probably just got a kick out of Gimli. Despite Gimli's great axe skill, he would probably be no match for Celeborn and maybe he already trusted his wife to be "faithful." Also think of the person we are dealing with. Gimli acts like he's tired of seeing the short dwarf women and falls in love with anyone who isn't a dwarf, Arwen, Galadriel, Eowyn, random women of Gondor lol.

Also, yes, Celeborn wasn't around when Feanor asked for Galadriel's hair.

Mithalwen · 08-20-2004, 10:23 AM

The attraction of Celeborn is sometimes hard to fathom - I sometimes wonder if "the Wise" was a bit ironic ....... but so often really brilliant clever women end up with husbands who are not their equal .....( because successful men feel threatened by women who don't need them to increase their status? Because there is only room for one really big ego in any realtionship?) and any way just about all the alpha males of her generation were either her brothers or first cousins and elves avoided marrying close cousins ..... Although Celebrimbor was quite keen wasn't he..?

More seriously .... HoME explains that in general that once they have chosen their spouse, elves are constant in their love - just as well since there is no "get out" ... and beyond producing children the marriages are rather more spiritual than physical..... so it is unlikely that Celeborn would have been terribly jealous let alone regarded Gimli as a threat ....... Gimli seems to worship Galadriel rather than flirt......

Actually if Celeborn were a dwarf he would have probably decked Gimli.... dwarf husbands apparently register off the scale for over-protective, jealous husbands

but then the m/f ratio is not in their favour......

Boromir88 · 08-20-2004, 10:32 AM

Mithalwen said:

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but so often really brilliant clever women end up with husbands who are not their equal

Yes, perfect example Melian the maia and Thingol the Teleri, well another example besides Galadriel the Noldor and Celeborn the Teleri. These Teleri men woo, must be studs.

Mithalwen · 08-20-2004, 11:15 AM

. These Teleri men woo, must be studs.[/QUOTE]

LMAO....

Well silver hair can be very attractive..... or it is the prospect of all those romantic walks by the sea or boat trips ..... and they are musical too ...... probably can manage better than a drunken rendition of "You've lost that lovin' feeling" ala Top Gun when they serenade.....

Boromir88 · 08-20-2004, 12:29 PM

Oh my now I'm LMAO lol.

silver hair, romantic walks..etc haha.

Encaitare · 08-20-2004, 05:44 PM

Celeborn probably saw Gimli and was all, "Psh, like that little hairy guy can get *my* pretty wife... keep dreamin' small fry."

It seems to me that Celeborn is a very level-headed guy who doesn't get worked up over anything. He chills in a tree all day and lets Galadriel do all the work, probably sipping a drink with a little umbrella in it.

While I doubt he was exactly pleased that Gimli was enamored of Galadriel, it was probably interpreted as more of a gesture of good will than anything else. I suppose if he sees that a Dwarf is reverent of an Elf, Galadriel no less, he would think that maybe he wasn't so bad.

And yeah, what is it with Teleri guys? Perhaps they were the buff surfer types of Middle-earth?

08-20-2004, 08:09 AM	#1
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Celeborn sure had a good time of it! Anyway, he could not possibly feel threatened by Gimli. He was an utterly different species for crying out loud. If anything, Gimli's actions would have made Celeborn feel even better. Married for all those years and guys are still drooling over your wife, that would make any Elf feel good. But, if I can avoid being silly here, I am going to agree with Imladris about the type of love on display. It was not that kind of desire. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-20-2004, 09:40 AM	#2
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	With the Feanor incident, there is a thread about Galadriel's hair, and Feanor wanted her hair for all the wrong reasons, why he was turned down and Gimli wasn't. Maybe the "flirting" was too strong a word, I think admire, or even "unrequited love" works better. I agree with Eomer Celeborn probably just got a kick out of Gimli. Despite Gimli's great axe skill, he would probably be no match for Celeborn and maybe he already trusted his wife to be "faithful." Also think of the person we are dealing with. Gimli acts like he's tired of seeing the short dwarf women and falls in love with anyone who isn't a dwarf, Arwen, Galadriel, Eowyn, random women of Gondor lol. Also, yes, Celeborn wasn't around when Feanor asked for Galadriel's hair. Last edited by Boromir88; 08-20-2004 at 09:45 AM.

08-20-2004, 10:23 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	The attraction of Celeborn is sometimes hard to fathom - I sometimes wonder if "the Wise" was a bit ironic ....... but so often really brilliant clever women end up with husbands who are not their equal .....( because successful men feel threatened by women who don't need them to increase their status? Because there is only room for one really big ego in any realtionship?) and any way just about all the alpha males of her generation were either her brothers or first cousins and elves avoided marrying close cousins ..... Although Celebrimbor was quite keen wasn't he..? More seriously .... HoME explains that in general that once they have chosen their spouse, elves are constant in their love - just as well since there is no "get out" ... and beyond producing children the marriages are rather more spiritual than physical..... so it is unlikely that Celeborn would have been terribly jealous let alone regarded Gimli as a threat ....... Gimli seems to worship Galadriel rather than flirt...... Actually if Celeborn were a dwarf he would have probably decked Gimli.... dwarf husbands apparently register off the scale for over-protective, jealous husbands but then the m/f ratio is not in their favour...... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-20-2004, 11:15 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	. These Teleri men woo, must be studs.[/QUOTE] LMAO.... Well silver hair can be very attractive..... or it is the prospect of all those romantic walks by the sea or boat trips ..... and they are musical too ...... probably can manage better than a drunken rendition of "You've lost that lovin' feeling" ala Top Gun when they serenade..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-20-2004, 12:29 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Haha Oh my now I'm LMAO lol. silver hair, romantic walks..etc haha.

08-20-2004, 05:44 PM	#7
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Celeborn probably saw Gimli and was all, "Psh, like that little hairy guy can get my pretty wife... keep dreamin' small fry." It seems to me that Celeborn is a very level-headed guy who doesn't get worked up over anything. He chills in a tree all day and lets Galadriel do all the work, probably sipping a drink with a little umbrella in it. While I doubt he was exactly pleased that Gimli was enamored of Galadriel, it was probably interpreted as more of a gesture of good will than anything else. I suppose if he sees that a Dwarf is reverent of an Elf, Galadriel no less, he would think that maybe he wasn't so bad. And yeah, what is it with Teleri guys? Perhaps they were the buff surfer types of Middle-earth?