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Boromir88 · 08-20-2004, 10:32 AM

Mithalwen said:

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but so often really brilliant clever women end up with husbands who are not their equal

Yes, perfect example Melian the maia and Thingol the Teleri, well another example besides Galadriel the Noldor and Celeborn the Teleri. These Teleri men woo, must be studs.

Mithalwen · 08-20-2004, 11:15 AM

. These Teleri men woo, must be studs.[/QUOTE]

LMAO....

Well silver hair can be very attractive..... or it is the prospect of all those romantic walks by the sea or boat trips ..... and they are musical too ...... probably can manage better than a drunken rendition of "You've lost that lovin' feeling" ala Top Gun when they serenade.....

Boromir88 · 08-20-2004, 12:29 PM

Oh my now I'm LMAO lol.

silver hair, romantic walks..etc haha.

Encaitare · 08-20-2004, 05:44 PM

Celeborn probably saw Gimli and was all, "Psh, like that little hairy guy can get *my* pretty wife... keep dreamin' small fry."

It seems to me that Celeborn is a very level-headed guy who doesn't get worked up over anything. He chills in a tree all day and lets Galadriel do all the work, probably sipping a drink with a little umbrella in it.

While I doubt he was exactly pleased that Gimli was enamored of Galadriel, it was probably interpreted as more of a gesture of good will than anything else. I suppose if he sees that a Dwarf is reverent of an Elf, Galadriel no less, he would think that maybe he wasn't so bad.

And yeah, what is it with Teleri guys? Perhaps they were the buff surfer types of Middle-earth?

Guinevere · 08-21-2004, 09:19 AM

For me it is obvious that Gimli's feelings for Galadriel are a typical example of medieval courtly love and adoration. Apparently many people nowadays cannot picture such a thing anymore...
See this thread Gimli and Galadriel especially the posts of Kalimac (#9) about courtly love and littleman poet (#15) about the Virgin Mary !

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-06-2004, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Guinevere

For me it is obvious that Gimli's feelings for Galadriel are a typical example of medeaval courtly love and adoration. Apparently many people nowadays cannot picture such a thing anymore...

Yes, but can a Dwarf and an Elven non-Queen ever simply be "just courtly friends" without the 's' word coming into it. I see great potential for a film here: When Gimli met Galadriel.

Lush · 09-06-2004, 09:29 PM

Oh Gimli TOTALLY had the hots for Galadriel. Remember how he wanted to deck Emoer for daring to say that Arwen was prettier?

I guess the thing with Gimli is: he can give a compliment without coming off like a loser and not crossing the boundary into the cheesy or the profane. And Galadriel appeared to be pleased with that. And Celeborn seemed to go along with whatever pleased his wife.

The thing about Celeborn is that he reminds me most of all of this typical, laid-back rasta sort of fellow. The sort who's pretty smart but doesn't have the need to be in the center of attention all the time. The sort that doesn't get jealous because he knows another dude is checking out his wife. It's already been said: if you're married to someone THAT hot, getting jealous EVERY time you notice someone admiring her can get pretty tedious. Plus, they'd been married for a long time. I'm sure Celeborn just got used to it.

Mithalwen · 08-21-2004, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Encaitare

And yeah, what is it with Teleri guys? Perhaps they were the buff surfer types of Middle-earth?

YEs... or given the music, the rock-stars.. the eye-candy trophy husbands of Middle Earth. Maybe they were also the sweet sensitive types too .... not like those Noldorin men who spent all their time devoted to their craft , the elven equivalent of a husband who spends every possible moment tinkering with something in his shed...

yavanna II · 08-24-2004, 07:43 AM

Well Galadriel was the first Elf-girl who really showed Gimli Goodness? I mean that, she comforted Gimli by the dwarven names she sorta recited.... and I think that if Celeborn smacked Gimli it would bring more hate-for-elves in Gimli's heart. After all Gimli didn't desire Galadriel sexually.

Boromir88 · 08-24-2004, 08:01 AM

Most elves, like the Noldor elves, and elves of Rivendell had pretty strong relationships with dwarves, not sexually, but friendship wise. We can see Gloin eating at Elrond's supper, Gloin had grown in great respect and had no problem with the elves from Rivendell. Noldor and Dwarves were both from Aule, so they sort of had a thing in common and they also, tended to be nicer to dwarve, as we get to see with Galadriel. The only really elves that had a problem with dwarves were the Silvan or Sindarin (Teleri elves). We get to see Thranduil's hate towards the dwarves in The Hobbit, we see the whole bit with Haldir, a Silvan elves, with Gimli, and I'm sure Celeborn had some resistance towards Gimli.

The friendship between Gimli and Legolas was indeed a strange one, I believe it said not one was seen between elves and dwarves, which is true, but Noldor and Elves of Rivendell had no hate towards dwarves.

08-20-2004, 11:15 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	. These Teleri men woo, must be studs.[/QUOTE] LMAO.... Well silver hair can be very attractive..... or it is the prospect of all those romantic walks by the sea or boat trips ..... and they are musical too ...... probably can manage better than a drunken rendition of "You've lost that lovin' feeling" ala Top Gun when they serenade..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-20-2004, 12:29 PM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Haha Oh my now I'm LMAO lol. silver hair, romantic walks..etc haha.

08-21-2004, 09:19 AM	#5
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	For me it is obvious that Gimli's feelings for Galadriel are a typical example of medieval courtly love and adoration. Apparently many people nowadays cannot picture such a thing anymore... See this thread Gimli and Galadriel especially the posts of Kalimac (#9) about courtly love and littleman poet (#15) about the Virgin Mary ! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat! Last edited by Guinevere; 09-12-2004 at 06:15 AM. Reason: The link didn't work...

09-06-2004, 09:29 PM	#7
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Oh Gimli TOTALLY had the hots for Galadriel. Remember how he wanted to deck Emoer for daring to say that Arwen was prettier? I guess the thing with Gimli is: he can give a compliment without coming off like a loser and not crossing the boundary into the cheesy or the profane. And Galadriel appeared to be pleased with that. And Celeborn seemed to go along with whatever pleased his wife. The thing about Celeborn is that he reminds me most of all of this typical, laid-back rasta sort of fellow. The sort who's pretty smart but doesn't have the need to be in the center of attention all the time. The sort that doesn't get jealous because he knows another dude is checking out his wife. It's already been said: if you're married to someone THAT hot, getting jealous EVERY time you notice someone admiring her can get pretty tedious. Plus, they'd been married for a long time. I'm sure Celeborn just got used to it. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

08-24-2004, 08:01 AM	#10
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Most elves... Most elves, like the Noldor elves, and elves of Rivendell had pretty strong relationships with dwarves, not sexually, but friendship wise. We can see Gloin eating at Elrond's supper, Gloin had grown in great respect and had no problem with the elves from Rivendell. Noldor and Dwarves were both from Aule, so they sort of had a thing in common and they also, tended to be nicer to dwarve, as we get to see with Galadriel. The only really elves that had a problem with dwarves were the Silvan or Sindarin (Teleri elves). We get to see Thranduil's hate towards the dwarves in The Hobbit, we see the whole bit with Haldir, a Silvan elves, with Gimli, and I'm sure Celeborn had some resistance towards Gimli. The friendship between Gimli and Legolas was indeed a strange one, I believe it said not one was seen between elves and dwarves, which is true, but Noldor and Elves of Rivendell had no hate towards dwarves.

08-20-2004, 05:44 PM	#4
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Celeborn probably saw Gimli and was all, "Psh, like that little hairy guy can get my pretty wife... keep dreamin' small fry." It seems to me that Celeborn is a very level-headed guy who doesn't get worked up over anything. He chills in a tree all day and lets Galadriel do all the work, probably sipping a drink with a little umbrella in it. While I doubt he was exactly pleased that Gimli was enamored of Galadriel, it was probably interpreted as more of a gesture of good will than anything else. I suppose if he sees that a Dwarf is reverent of an Elf, Galadriel no less, he would think that maybe he wasn't so bad. And yeah, what is it with Teleri guys? Perhaps they were the buff surfer types of Middle-earth?

08-24-2004, 07:43 AM	#9
yavanna II Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in my own little world Posts: 142	Well Galadriel was the first Elf-girl who really showed Gimli Goodness? I mean that, she comforted Gimli by the dwarven names she sorta recited.... and I think that if Celeborn smacked Gimli it would bring more hate-for-elves in Gimli's heart. After all Gimli didn't desire Galadriel sexually.