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Old 08-21-2004, 03:10 AM   #1
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I've been trying to place the Phial for a while now. I know I'd seen it before, but something on this thread to do with living rooms prompted me to remember. A few years back I recieved a bottle of extremely unpleasant, and probably cheap, perfume.

I won't get into the particulars, but I have never worn perfume for the entire duration of my life, and I think I threw it away.

But my point is that the perfume I recieved was in the Phial of Galadriel. It smelled then, and it bothers me now.

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The image I had was of a slightly sarcastic, smart-alecky elf, joking about bringing the sun down to melt the snow on Caradhras and waving at the two snow-bound men as he jogs off over the snow.
Sarcasm being my life-blood, I liked Legolas immensly for his snarkish ways, but he was, as you said, Saphy, flattened in the movie.

Was anyone else bothered by the Gondorian Armor? I know I was, and with absolutely no plausable reason why.
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Old 08-21-2004, 08:35 AM   #2
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I didn't really like Legolas in the movies. Maybe it's his "Captain Obvious" moments, or the drastic change of character, but I wasn't too fond of his portrayal. The image I had was of a slightly sarcastic, smart-alecky elf, joking about bringing the sun down to melt the snow on Caradhras and waving at the two snow-bound men as he jogs off over the snow. MovieLegolas was... a bit flat, really. *shrugs*
Well, after coming to my senses and realizing that Orlando Bloom is an immense pansy, I decided movie-Legolas was dumb. His only purpose, as Sapphire_Flame says, is to be "Captain Obvious" and point out what kind of nasty creatures are coming, ie: Orcs! Goblins! Crebain from Dunland! And then shoot them whenever possible.

You really didn't get that much of the development in the Legolas/Gimli friendship. The EE is a little better, but not as well done as in the books. In the EE FotR DVD, there's that one scene when they're outside Moria, and Gandalf and Gimli are saying how Dwarf doors are invisible when shut and their own masters cannot find them if their secrets are forgotten, and Legolas mutters, "Why doesn't that surprise me?" Then a minute later, Gimli says,

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Soon Master Elf, you will enjoy the fabled hospitality of the dwarves! Roaring fires, malt beer, red meat off the bone! This, my friend, is the home of my cousin Balin. And they call it a mine. A MINE!
He could of course be using "my friend" in a sarcastic manner, but it doesn't sound like it. Then after the gift-giving scene, they have a nice friendly little moment with Leggy asking Gimli what his gift was. Very nice, but you're mostly left to figure out for yourself how the animosity ended and when the friendship began. The book talks about how Legolas would go off into the woods in Lothlorien and take Gimli with him, much to the surprise of the rest of the Fellowship, but since in movie-world they're only in Lorien for the night, you kind of lose all that.

As for the Gondorian armor, I loved it. I thought it was beautiful, and I loved the Tree done in relief on the front. What I think is just dumb is this:



He looks like a strong wind could send him flying at any moment! Silly winged helmets.
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Old 08-23-2004, 04:52 AM   #3
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I would have to agree on the Phial thing, just because it looks like a simple piece of glass actually, and not something very important. It just looks cheap.
But on the other hand, how were they supposed to do it differently?
Although I must say I don't feel that uneasy when seeing it.

What makes me uneasy, is Gandalf's staff, as they enter the Mines of Moria.
When he says: "Let's make some light" or something along those lines, and then the top of the staff starts glowing. It's a bit the same impression I have as with the Phial, it just looks cheap.

And, another little thing: The first time we see Sauron in FOTR, he stands there with his ring on his hand, and that looks like a scene from, well, the Power Rangers or something....
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:35 AM   #4
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Cheers Mariska, I will never again be able to watch the Sauron scene without cringing.
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What makes me uneasy, is Gandalf's staff, as they enter the Mines of Moria. When he says: "Let's make some light" or something along those lines, and then the top of the staff starts glowing.
This bugged me for a while until I looked closer and realized that he actually fits a little crystal-like thing into the top of the staff, and this is where the light is coming from. Makes a little more sense to me that way.
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Old 08-23-2004, 02:30 PM   #6
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Ive never liked Orthanc...It was built by Gondorians just think it would be more Beatiful but then again maybe its because of the destruction surrounding it because with all the trees it looked kind of nce...I still think it was to pointy though for Gondorians.
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Old 08-23-2004, 02:47 PM   #7
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Actually it was built by the Numenoreans... I suppose they're quite similar but maybe the Numenoreans have drastically different tastes in decor. Orthanc did look less evil with the pretty gardens and everything, though. The Numenoreans also built the Black Gates, I believe, but I think Sauron did that nasty corruption thing he does so often and so well and made them look more intimidating.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong!
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