Movie remakes?

[Encaitare]

ARGH! I had a great list of links to Valar art, and just lost it all. So here it is again. As I was saying ere my ridiculous computer lost the whole thing, I see the Valar as mighty and intimidating yet kindly, and the Valier as beautiful yet strong and gentle. Since they apparently enjoy taking Elvish forms, that's how I would portray them. Here's a bunch of pics I found using a Google image search.

Varda (there are so many pretty ones of her out there!):

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo..._and_manwe.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mithra...ages/Varda.jpg

http://www.ginevra2000.it/Fantasy/Fairies/Lites1.jpg

Manwe:

http://www.mikeljanin.net/imagepages/Manwe.html

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...inen/Manwe.jpg

Ulmo (so many cool ones!):

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...h/sil-ulmo.jpg (my personal fave of Ulmo, I think this is the best I've seen anywhere)

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...rland/ulmo.jpg

http://www.tlotr.com/fan_art/ulmo_dgovar.jpg

Yavanna:

http://www.mikeljanin.net/imagepages/Yavanna.html (I think this one's perfect for her)

Aule:

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...kitin/Aule.jpg

http://img-fan.theonering.net/middle...s/aule_tns.jpg

Orome:

http://www.mikeljanin.net/imagepages/Orome.html

Irmo: --

Nienna:

http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/elgaladna/Nienna.JPG

http://img-fan.theonering.net/middle...enna_govar.jpg

Mandos: -- I didn't really see anything that struck my fancy.

Tulkas:

http://img-fan.theonering.net/middle...lkas_govar.jpg

Este:

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...apiro/Este.jpg

Vaire: -- none

Vana: -- searching for this only found me, let's say, questionable material

Nessa:

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...piro/Nessa.jpg

And let us not forget Morgoth, the Dark-Lord-formerly-known-as-Vala:

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo...owe/melkor.jpg

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo.../challenge.jpg (Morgoth and Fingolfin)

Some good pictures can be found here: http://fan.theonering.net/middleearthtours/valar.html

Hope some of these aided!

~Encaitare

[Child of the 7th Age]

You might enjoy reading the following article. It agrees with you that a "remake" will be done and suggests some things that will be involved with that.

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[Encaitare]

An interesting article, Child.

I can think of several actors who could have done as good a job portraying Gandalf: Sean Connery, Brian Blessed, Derek Jacobi, Anthony Hopkins, Michael Caine, Patrick Stewart

GAH! NO! This I wholeheartedly disagree with, at least the Sean Connery bit. And Patrick Stewart (wow, I just wrote "Steward" by accident... LotR..overload..). They're brilliant actors, but somehow I can't see them being Gandalf. Patrick Stewart just always makes me think Captain Picard, and probably always will.

But yes, a remake probably will be done. No doubt it will be great, and hopefully more true to the books, but I think it's a little early to be worrying a full remake just yet.

[Boromir88]

Nefer wrote:

How about a Silmariliom mini series? For Hallmark? Hallmark gets as close to the books as they can get.

I don't know about a Silmarillion mini series, I've always thought an LOTR mini series would be neat. Maybe one could make a mini series on the Sil, it might not get much ratings since there are definately not as many Tolkien readers as Orli fans, but I think it would be interesting, The Sil has a lot more "action" you might put it, but I think remembering the names, and lineage would just get too confusing, you can get confused by even reading it.

As for the LOTR mini series, this is what I thought would be neat, it would be based solely on the books, so you will have of course the book people watching it, yet now with PJ's movie it has dragged in more "orli fans" to read Tolkien so now they will see a mini series based on the books. I mean one with nothing cut out, no people, no events, no places cut out. So now people wouldn't have to fear the big 1000 page book and could see it in front of them, and would be getting the "knowledge of the books" something one couldn't get from the movies (no matter how good the movies were).

[Encaitare]

Maybe one could make a mini series on the Sil, it might not get much ratings since there are definately not as many Tolkien readers as Orli fans, but I think it would be interesting, The Sil has a lot more "action" you might put it, but I think remembering the names, and lineage would just get too confusing, you can get confused by even reading it.

Yeah, it's the kind of thing you definitely have to read multiple times before really understanding it. The first time through I was bored with a lot of it but just kept pressing on, and then through rereading it I've found it to be a great read and not *that* hard to understand. The names still get me sometimes, though... darnit, why do they all have to have names that sound alike??

As for the Orli fans... maybe we could offer good ol' Orli a minor role... one of Feanor's sons that no one remembers, for example. Maybe Amras. Seriously, though, if he was in it, it would spoil it for the "real" fans because then all the rabid fangirls would come and be all, "Oh mY gOd I liEk Am SuCh A tOlKeEn FaN i hAvE sEen tHe SiLrIoN (tHaT's wHaT iTs CaLlEd, RiTe?) aNd OrLaNdO bLoOm WaS liEk sOoO hOtT! OMG i Am sUcH a GeEk fOr LiEkInG tHiS bUt OrLi iS mAh BaBi..." and so on and so forth. (How do people type like that, nonstop?? It takes forever!)

[Morquesse]

I would like to see Frodo portrayed more courageously the way he is in the book. The movie made him kind of wimpy by comparison.

I agree. In the movie he is portrayed as a weak, hopeless, barely able to defend himself.....Thing. One thing I think would help is him all alone at the Ford, holding his sword, and saying "Go back to Mordor, and follow me no more!" I loved that part.

At the Ford, I wouldn't have Arwen OR Glorfindel. I would have Legolas. *Avoids tomatoes* Seriously. It would do two things: 1. give him more character than just a good-looking comic relief, 2. avoids having too many characters. I liked the way they did it in the cartoon, as wicked as it was. Plus, originally, for a second, Tolkien was going to have the same elf at the ford AND in the Fellowship.

I would also give Saruman a different name. His Elvish name? Something to avoid confusion of the two enemies.

Yeah, I can see a remake in like.....25 years. They'll need a new one for the new generation. the Sil....I don't see that coming soon, sorry. Maybe they would make, like, 20 different movies, but not in one clump.

Good discussion!

~M

[Boromir88]

Encaitare:

As for the Orli fans... maybe we could offer good ol' Orli a minor role... one of Feanor's sons that no one remembers, for example. Maybe Amras. Seriously, though, if he was in it, it would spoil it for the "real" fans because then all the rabid fangirls would come and be all, "Oh mY gOd I liEk Am SuCh A tOlKeEn FaN i hAvE sEen tHe SiLrIoN (tHaT's wHaT iTs CaLlEd, RiTe?) aNd OrLaNdO bLoOm WaS liEk sOoO hOtT! OMG i Am sUcH a GeEk fOr LiEkInG tHiS bUt OrLi iS mAh BaBi..." and so on and so forth. (How do people type like that, nonstop?? It takes forever!)

OMG...LMAO, now this is a true one here, one of the fangurls called in the "Salmonillion." I of course said, "I didn't know Tolkien wrote a book about fish, however he did have a lot of fin's in his story, is the Salmonillion only about all the Fin names?" Which is true, I mean Finrod, Finwe, GlorFINdel, Fingolfin, Finarfin...etc.

Morquesse:

At the Ford, I wouldn't have Arwen OR Glorfindel. I would have Legolas. *Avoids tomatoes* Seriously.

Don't worry I won't throw a tomato at you (crosses fingers lol), but I would have to disagree with you. I think Legolas already got more then enough credit for stuff he didn't do, slaying the troll in Moria, killing a mumak...etc, but that's my opinion on things.