The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

SamwiseGamgee · 08-29-2004, 05:20 AM

I shall look forwrd to your post, Eomer.
I do not think that wargs would be so crude as to commit such an uncomely crime as genocide. A warg is a noble creature and can surely work out that genocide achieves nothing other than a lot of bodies. Was it not James Joyce who wrote:

Quote:

Genocide achieves nothing, and wargs know that.

An apt man, that Joyce.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-30-2004, 08:38 AM

...written by a Hobbit named Frosco in the Third Age.

Warg Rider, a desire to be loved
Climb higher, to the platform just above
Little liar, you deceive me with your wit
Elocution, sculptured perfectly to fit

Tug of War, with the blessed and the mugged
Please let me quiz you, rest assured
Town crier, has our voices in his coat

Warg Rider, a desire to be loved

Warg Rider, a sifting signal of the times
Tossed and turned up, in deceptional rhymes
Soap and water, wash your mouth out all the same
She's my daughter, but I let her play the game.

-Now, what to make of this song? It was written to show the fear which the Warg Rider brought to a small Hobbit village just to the north-east of the White Downs. You'll notice the mocking way in which the writer uses the term desire to be loved. This is a reference to the Hobbits who were too indecisive about the defence of their village and instead waxed philosophical about the merits of the Warg Rider. Of course, as a result, the Warg Rider tricked his way into the village and nearly destroyed it. Perhaps the Hobbit writer is trying to show that a wisdom and knowledge of ethics, etc. is necessary before just anyone tries to act clever. Maybe if the Hobbits had reacted properly they could have resisted the Warg Rider.

A sad song it is. The last line is generally interpreted as a reference to a young Hobbit lass who was abducted by the Warg Rider and never found again.

SamwiseGamgee · 09-01-2004, 04:41 PM

Interesting indeed, Eomer. Once again you suprise and delight with your unearthing of warg related titbits. It does astound me how these fools can deride the Warg Rider so flippantly and nigh on insultingly. One has no suprise that he strung them up by their intestines and allowed crows to peck at their genitals.*
I have of late been looking through some literature of a non-Tolkien origin in an attempt to find anything in reference to wargs. My search has been fruitless, but I'm sure with a little more trying I'll find something. Must keep trying.

*-dramatisation, may not have happened.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-02-2004, 06:15 AM

They can be found in the deep, dark places of the world. They are hard to find, but they are worth the journey.

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 09-02-2004, 06:20 PM

Yes, while on vacation a week ago, in an area where few humans live, I saw signs of wargs... I was hot on the trail for many days, giving up rest and food and drink for a chance of a chance to meet wargs... And all in vain, I might add. Just as I felt I was getting really close, the call came to pack my bags and leave the place... I will not be discouraged by this temporary setback. Better luck next year.

SamwiseGamgee · 09-03-2004, 11:22 AM

Do not be discouraged, Azaelia . The hunt for wargs is a long and deadly one, and few men ever succeed in their quest to find one. I, for example, once spent 14 months in a cardboard box measuring 3ft cubed in the Japanese Alps in the hope of seeing a warg. I never did, but I don't mind that, not only because I have been blessed enough to see other wargs but because it taught me a great deal: the hardships wargs must face, the nutritional value of excrement and just how many hairs grow inside my nose are but a few.

SamwiseGamgee · 09-13-2004, 10:37 AM

What has gone wrong? It seems years ago that I last posted on this most noble of threads. It was a mere ten days ago, and while in the past I have seen hundreds of posts leap onto a thread in this time no man has dared post on this thread in that time.
Why, oh why? Even our great leader, Eomer, so faithful in his warg knowledge, has not posted. It breaks my heart.
Wargs are everything to us subscribers to this thread. Our friends, our lovers (selected individuals) and our heroes. Surely when we have an opportunity to show our appreciation we should. Come, one and all, post with your interesting or enrapturing tales of wargs. Even if you are a newcomer and unsure, just post, or better still, ask_wargy@hotmail.com.
Brothers and sisters, I call upon you to remember one thing: wargs. Just think on all that those great beasts of legend embody and ask yourself not what wargs can do for you, but what you can do for wargs. And then post your suggestions. Ahem.

08-30-2004, 08:38 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Warg Rider... ...written by a Hobbit named Frosco in the Third Age. Warg Rider, a desire to be loved Climb higher, to the platform just above Little liar, you deceive me with your wit Elocution, sculptured perfectly to fit Tug of War, with the blessed and the mugged Please let me quiz you, rest assured Town crier, has our voices in his coat Warg Rider, a desire to be loved Warg Rider, a sifting signal of the times Tossed and turned up, in deceptional rhymes Soap and water, wash your mouth out all the same She's my daughter, but I let her play the game. -Now, what to make of this song? It was written to show the fear which the Warg Rider brought to a small Hobbit village just to the north-east of the White Downs. You'll notice the mocking way in which the writer uses the term desire to be loved. This is a reference to the Hobbits who were too indecisive about the defence of their village and instead waxed philosophical about the merits of the Warg Rider. Of course, as a result, the Warg Rider tricked his way into the village and nearly destroyed it. Perhaps the Hobbit writer is trying to show that a wisdom and knowledge of ethics, etc. is necessary before just anyone tries to act clever. Maybe if the Hobbits had reacted properly they could have resisted the Warg Rider. A sad song it is. The last line is generally interpreted as a reference to a young Hobbit lass who was abducted by the Warg Rider and never found again. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-01-2004, 04:41 PM	#3
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	Interesting indeed, Eomer. Once again you suprise and delight with your unearthing of warg related titbits. It does astound me how these fools can deride the Warg Rider so flippantly and nigh on insultingly. One has no suprise that he strung them up by their intestines and allowed crows to peck at their genitals.* I have of late been looking through some literature of a non-Tolkien origin in an attempt to find anything in reference to wargs. My search has been fruitless, but I'm sure with a little more trying I'll find something. Must keep trying. *-dramatisation, may not have happened. __________________ -- Well, I'm back.

09-02-2004, 06:15 AM	#4
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	They can be found in the deep, dark places of the world. They are hard to find, but they are worth the journey. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-02-2004, 06:20 PM	#5
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	Yes, while on vacation a week ago, in an area where few humans live, I saw signs of wargs... I was hot on the trail for many days, giving up rest and food and drink for a chance of a chance to meet wargs... And all in vain, I might add. Just as I felt I was getting really close, the call came to pack my bags and leave the place... I will not be discouraged by this temporary setback. Better luck next year. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

09-03-2004, 11:22 AM	#6
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	Do not be discouraged, Azaelia . The hunt for wargs is a long and deadly one, and few men ever succeed in their quest to find one. I, for example, once spent 14 months in a cardboard box measuring 3ft cubed in the Japanese Alps in the hope of seeing a warg. I never did, but I don't mind that, not only because I have been blessed enough to see other wargs but because it taught me a great deal: the hardships wargs must face, the nutritional value of excrement and just how many hairs grow inside my nose are but a few. __________________ -- Well, I'm back. Last edited by SamwiseGamgee; 09-07-2004 at 03:41 AM.

09-13-2004, 10:37 AM	#7
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	What has gone wrong? It seems years ago that I last posted on this most noble of threads. It was a mere ten days ago, and while in the past I have seen hundreds of posts leap onto a thread in this time no man has dared post on this thread in that time. Why, oh why? Even our great leader, Eomer, so faithful in his warg knowledge, has not posted. It breaks my heart. Wargs are everything to us subscribers to this thread. Our friends, our lovers (selected individuals) and our heroes. Surely when we have an opportunity to show our appreciation we should. Come, one and all, post with your interesting or enrapturing tales of wargs. Even if you are a newcomer and unsure, just post, or better still, ask_wargy@hotmail.com. Brothers and sisters, I call upon you to remember one thing: wargs. Just think on all that those great beasts of legend embody and ask yourself not what wargs can do for you, but what you can do for wargs. And then post your suggestions. Ahem. __________________ -- Well, I'm back.