PJ's Most Disagreable Mistakes (reasons why he is no longer aloud doing The Hobbit)

[The Only Real Estel]

A warg attack is part of Saruman's attack on Theodred in "The Battles

Yes, I was saying that I didn't recall there was any warg attack on the King & co. on their way to Helm's Deep. Though I'm sure I could very easily be wrong .

Kuruharan: That part bothered me too. Aragorn acts like he forgot all of Master Elrond's geography lessons in Rivendell, I've always rolled my eyes at that part .

[Voralphion]

One thing that I was disappointed about was the change in the charge of the rohrimm. The speech Thoeden said in the book was much more stirring than the one in the movie and I think the blast he blew on his horn causing it the explode would have been impressive but was left out. Also the change in the demenor of the riders of rohan and Eomer after finding Eowyn, from singing to calling for death should have been included along with Eomer's joy at seeing the standard of Gondor break on the Corsairs ships and his meeting with Aragorn in the midst of battle.

[Boromir88]

Kuruharan

Aragorn: Send for aid to Gondor!!! Yes, that's right, I said Gondor!!! Gondor that cannot possibly be here for a week, in spite of the fact that I just made a daring and heroic entrance to announce that the orcs will be here tonight and we are all doomed!!! Gondor that (to all appearances) does not have enough me to defend its own borders!!!

What's even more unbelievable ELVES! ELVES FROM LOTHLORIEN! FARTHER AWAY THEN GONDOR! Can make it to Helm's deep in a matter of hours, when it takes Aragorn and company days to cross the plains of Rohan and for all their speed Aragorn was nicknamed "wingfoot." I say them Elves must have bought Scottie's Transporter Beam. Oh and just in case I haven't pointed this out, in the movie, Isengard was what 100 yrds away from Fangorn? And, I love how Frodo is able to race up Mount Doom in a matter of seconds. To continue, how about Theoden's line in Helm's Deep:

"Saruman's arm would have grown long indeed if he thinks he can reach us here." WTH, isn't Helm's Deep closer to Isengard then Edoras? Ya, I can see the rationale, "let's flee from Edoras because Saruman is going to attack us, so let's go even closer to him in Helm's Deep." PJ, should have just stuck with Theoden already willing to go to Helm's Deep and fight.

Oh, and I almost forgot, with Elrond, one minute in Rivendell, and bam there you go in Dunharrow. So OK, Haldir bought a Transporter Beam from Scottie, who then lent it to Elrond. Them Elves must have made great strides in technology within the last couple days.

[Kuruharan]

What's even more unbelievable ELVES! ELVES FROM LOTHLORIEN! FARTHER AWAY THEN GONDOR! Can make it to Helm's deep in a matter of hours, when it takes Aragorn and company days to cross the plains of Rohan and for all their speed Aragorn was nicknamed "wingfoot." I say them Elves must have bought Scottie's Transporter Beam.

You’re right about the elves. However, when I saw that in the movie, I already knew they would be there so somehow it was not so aggravating (in a way).

Part of it was that whole sequence leading up to the battle was so dreadfully done that when the elves arrived it was almost a relief because I knew that the fighting would be starting soon. (The battle sequences being less burdened with plot for PJ to mess up.)

[ninlaith]

I was absolutely outraged at the absence of the Scouring of the Shire. That was when the Hobbit's were able to show their quality and become true heroes. And another reason, that was when the first Hobbit was killed in the Shire. People will walk out of the movie still thinking that if they're in a safe place such as the Shire no harm will ever come to them. In a way the lack of this information could be helpful, however, Tolkien was trying to make a point with his writings. That is the one mistake that I think ruined a very important aspect of the movie. They are still incredible, riveting movies but some very key moments have been left with no justice being done to them.