What became of the Mouth of Sauron? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-14-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

First, I believe Cirith Gorgor is right around the Morannon. Secondly look, at "even before they came to the gate," would this mean, before he could retreat back, the host came out, therefor he was stuck at the battle? That is what I'm thinking, what do you think?

Cirith Gorgor is the pass across which the Morannon, or Black Gate, lay. It seems to me that this extract is simply saying that The Mouth's company gave the signal which triggered the assault and that the assault began immediately upon that signal. I don't doubt that the advancing hordes would have let the Mouth and his guard (the Mouthguard

) through.

But the extract does, to my mind, make it clear that the Mouth would have had no chance of making it back to Barad-Dur before its fall.

Boromir88 · 09-14-2004, 06:34 PM

Ahhh, I do see what you are saying, yes that makes sense now. Now that I have read it again, yes, the signal was blown, the guard came out, and Tolkien was just describing before they could reach the gate, the army was unleashed. Ok, yes I do agree, I think he wouldn't have been able to get to Barad-dur.

Keeper of Dol Guldur · 09-15-2004, 12:14 AM

Actually, his weezing and choking in rage was him having a hyperventilation attack. He fled back to the gates and the various forts, and probably got dizzy, couldn't feel his hands and feet, and then suffocated.

Poor guy, I guess that's what happens when you eat crow, feathers and all. Especially Stormcrow, the most bitter of all the crows you could possibly eat.

Rimbaud · 09-15-2004, 04:48 AM

Went into dentistry. Obviously.

Gothbogg the Ripper · 09-23-2004, 06:31 AM

Dentistry? Er... I somehow doubt it, I mean wouldn't he keep insulting the patients?

Elessar Telcontar · 09-23-2004, 06:39 AM

Unfortunately it was never actually documented what happened to the MoS but in my opinion he undoubtedly met a grisly, unhonourable end rather quickly after Sauron's demise. It's not entirely impossible that he got caught up in the battle at the Black Gate and was simply hewn down by a simple warrior...

Gothbogg the Ripper · 09-23-2004, 06:41 AM

It make sense, I mean the guy wasan utter coward wasn't he?

09-15-2004, 12:14 AM	#3
Keeper of Dol Guldur Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 315, CNY Boys and girls. Posts: 405	Re: Actually, his weezing and choking in rage was him having a hyperventilation attack. He fled back to the gates and the various forts, and probably got dizzy, couldn't feel his hands and feet, and then suffocated. Poor guy, I guess that's what happens when you eat crow, feathers and all. Especially Stormcrow, the most bitter of all the crows you could possibly eat. __________________ "I come from yonder...Have you seen Baggins? Baggins has left, he is coming. He is not far away. I wish to find him. If he passes will you tell me? I will come back with gold." - Khamul the Easterling

09-15-2004, 04:48 AM	#4
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,062	Went into dentistry. Obviously. __________________ And all the rest is literature

09-23-2004, 06:31 AM	#5
Gothbogg the Ripper Wight Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southend,U.K Posts: 113	Dentistry? Er... I somehow doubt it, I mean wouldn't he keep insulting the patients? __________________ Thanks for abandoning me for three years guys. I really enjoyed being a total outcast.

09-23-2004, 06:39 AM	#6
Elessar Telcontar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 12	Unfortunately it was never actually documented what happened to the MoS but in my opinion he undoubtedly met a grisly, unhonourable end rather quickly after Sauron's demise. It's not entirely impossible that he got caught up in the battle at the Black Gate and was simply hewn down by a simple warrior... __________________ "Death cannot be prevented, only delayed..."

09-23-2004, 06:41 AM	#7
Gothbogg the Ripper Wight Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southend,U.K Posts: 113	It make sense, I mean the guy wasan utter coward wasn't he? __________________ Thanks for abandoning me for three years guys. I really enjoyed being a total outcast.

09-14-2004, 06:34 PM	#2
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Ahhh, I do see what you are saying, yes that makes sense now. Now that I have read it again, yes, the signal was blown, the guard came out, and Tolkien was just describing before they could reach the gate, the army was unleashed. Ok, yes I do agree, I think he wouldn't have been able to get to Barad-dur.