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Auspicious Wraith
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But Zebedee, surely you agree that Frodo's mercy was necessary. Gimli would have killed Gollum long before they got anywhere near Mount Doom. Gollum was the essential piece in the puzzle of how to destroy the Ring. No-one could have willingly thrown the Ring into the Fire and that's why Gollum was needed.
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I agree Eomer, Gollum served a big purpose to the success of the quest. First off he was there guide, who know's how long Frodo would have been stuck in Emyn Muil, and plus Gollum found a way through the dead marshes, and knew a secret way into Mordor. Also, Gollum, the HERO of MIDDLE-EARTH! No, I didn't studder, I said HERO, for he was the one that put the ring in the fire (eventhough unintentionally).
Also, a thing to understand about the ring. The ring offers everyone's deepest desires, makes them see what they want most. For example, Galadriel wanted to overthrow Sauron, so the Ring made her see herself, taking the ring and using it to bring down Sauron. To Gollum it was a "present" to him, this little "precious" ring that could make him "disappear." There are some who can resist what the ring has to offer (Galadriel, Gandalf, Sam, Faramir) and there are those who can't (Isildur, Boromir, Gollum). So, it also depends upon that "will" of the person, depends upon if they give in to the Ring's "offer" or if they are able to say, no. I believe eventually EVERYONE, would give in to the ring, there are some who can resist more then others, but EVERYONE (with the exclusion of Bombadil) would have done what Frodo did, if he/she was stuck in Frodo's place. |
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In addition to what Boromir has said, if Gimli made it to Sammath Naur, even he wouldn't be able to give up the Ring and if he already killed Gollum (as Nil said) then there goes the Quest. Without Gollum, Middle-Earth would have been doomed, as no-one (in Middle-Earth)- except Bombadil, as Boromir said could give up the Ring in the heart of Sauron's domain-
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There is no question that Gimli would have succumbed to the temptation of the Ring in Sammath Naur. Let me give two quotes to help explain why- Quote:
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Thank you, Fingolfin II. If Tolkien said it, then Gimli would be corrupted.
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