Frodo as Gollum? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 · 10-02-2004, 03:31 PM

First off, I would like to say thats one hideous picture. I would like to see that somewhere in ROTK EE, for it does look interesting. But, truthfully Frodo wouldn't have had it long enough to get him to start resembling Gollum. If Gollum hadn't of bitten of Frodo's finger and accidently stumbled into Mount Doom, the Ring would have been claimed before Frodo got out of Mount Doom. So, I really don't see a possibility of Frodo containing the Ring long enough to get him to turn into hideousness. I would just like to see it because it could sort of be like this "future sign" or future "premonition" if you want to put it that way.

Encaitare · 10-02-2004, 08:02 PM

Oh, come on, guys. It's not that creepy.

I was quite irritated when I discovered they'd dropped that idea for TTT -- it would have been awesome. I don't know how they would put it in RotK, and I don't think they will, but I'll be very happy if they manage to pull it off.

Boromir88 · 10-02-2004, 09:05 PM

Ok, Encaitare, I'll give you that. Frodo deformed isn't as hideous as Gollum during the ROTK flashback at the beginning, I will admit lol. I guess my fan man side caught on, that will happen occasionally.

The Only Real Estel · 10-05-2004, 04:46 PM

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So, I really don't see a possibility of Frodo containing the Ring long enough to get him to turn into hideousness

True, but if you have seen the documentary in the TTT EE on the scene in question here, then you've heard PJ's description of what the scene is for. He said that it was a picture of what Frodo would become if he were allowed to keep the Ring (given the proper amount of time). So it seems that Jackson was most likely never intending to mean that Frodo would have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, ended up looking like that, twisted & wretched.

Nimrodel_9 · 10-05-2004, 04:51 PM

Yeah, Elijah`s good looks can`t be blocked out easily.

That`s true, Boromir88, but what if Frodo turned aside from his quest, and hid somewhere (like Gollum) long enough that the ring could take hold of him completely?

Boromir88 · 10-05-2004, 05:00 PM

Nimrodel a good possibility I think.

Evisse the Blue · 10-06-2004, 02:10 AM

Man, that is one disgusting and freaky pic...

Gollum was cuter...

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but what if Frodo turned aside from his quest, and hid somewhere (like Gollum) long enough that the ring could take hold of him completely?

That couldn't have happened, from a historical point of view. Things were set in motion at that time, and Sauron was getting ready for to hunt high and low for that Ring while crushing Gondor and anyone who dared stand in his way in the process. Like Gandalf said, everything depended on speed. Considering that, Frodo could not have been in possession of the Ring for so long as to develop a Gollum-like appearance, Sauron's many spies would have caught up with him first. So such a thing is not possible even from a hypothetical point of view, it's totally irrelevant. They might as well have shown a picture with Frodo being tortured in the chambers of Barad-dur, that would have been much more likely to happen.

Nimrodel_9 · 10-06-2004, 03:33 PM

That`s a sad and horrible thought Evisse, but good point.

10-02-2004, 03:31 PM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Hideous First off, I would like to say thats one hideous picture. I would like to see that somewhere in ROTK EE, for it does look interesting. But, truthfully Frodo wouldn't have had it long enough to get him to start resembling Gollum. If Gollum hadn't of bitten of Frodo's finger and accidently stumbled into Mount Doom, the Ring would have been claimed before Frodo got out of Mount Doom. So, I really don't see a possibility of Frodo containing the Ring long enough to get him to turn into hideousness. I would just like to see it because it could sort of be like this "future sign" or future "premonition" if you want to put it that way.

10-05-2004, 04:51 PM	#5
Nimrodel_9 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 734	Yeah, Elijah`s good looks can`t be blocked out easily. That`s true, Boromir88, but what if Frodo turned aside from his quest, and hid somewhere (like Gollum) long enough that the ring could take hold of him completely? __________________ .:A friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart:.

10-06-2004, 03:33 PM	#8
Nimrodel_9 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 734	That`s a sad and horrible thought Evisse, but good point. __________________ .:A friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart:.

10-02-2004, 08:02 PM	#2
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Oh, come on, guys. It's not that creepy. I was quite irritated when I discovered they'd dropped that idea for TTT -- it would have been awesome. I don't know how they would put it in RotK, and I don't think they will, but I'll be very happy if they manage to pull it off.

10-02-2004, 09:05 PM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Ok, Encaitare, I'll give you that. Frodo deformed isn't as hideous as Gollum during the ROTK flashback at the beginning, I will admit lol. I guess my fan man side caught on, that will happen occasionally.

10-05-2004, 05:00 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Nimrodel a good possibility I think.