Saruman's ending (PJ's way) P.S. Spoilers!

[Encaitare]

Well, I was pondering this last night, and I've come to the following conclusion: however terrible PJ's version of Grima's death is, I figure I will grow to tolerate it. Not accept it, but tolerate it, as we tolerate XenArwen and Gimli somehow knowing whata nervous system is.

It's very strange, and I can't explain it

Nor can I. Grima fangirls unite!

[Elianna]

Along the lines of a question gorthaur_cruel brought up:

how can you shoot an arrow to the top of Orthanc?

I looked it up: Lego's bow, strung with elf-hair and carved from mallorn wood, has a maximum effective range of 400 yards. Orthanc is "only" about 170 yards tall. He could make it easily.

I agree with Encaitare. Whatever they end up doing, I'll eventually get over it. At least now, with the new promo I've seen of the EE, I'm looking forward to Dec. 14 instead of dreading it because of what they were going to do with Saruman and Gríma.

[Encaitare]

I looked it up: Lego's bow, strung with elf-hair and carved from mallorn wood, has a maximum effective range of 400 yards. Orthanc is "only" about 170 yards tall. He could make it easily.

I assume you found the bit about the bow in "Weapons and Warfare," but where did you find Orthanc's height? 170 yards really isn't all that tall, if you think about it... less than two football fields. I always imagined it being taller.

[Elianna]

Yeah, I got Lego's bow range from "Weapons and Warfare". I got the height of Orthanc from the same place; it actually said 500 feet, but I decided to put both numbers in the same measurement so: 170 yards.

[Boromir88]

Encaitare I think you said it best.

I figure I will grow to tolerate it. Not accept it, but tolerate it,

Of course we all must "tolerate" it if we continue to watch the movies, like I do. Even the things that make me most angry (Leggy's supermanism, the bad view on Denethor, Elves at Helm's Deep, the Green Slime), we must all tolerate it if we continue to view, and LIKE the movies. Well said!

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Of course we all must "tolerate" it if we continue to watch the movies, like I do. Even the things that make me most angry (Leggy's supermanism, the bad view on Denethor, Elves at Helm's Deep, the Green Slime), we must all tolerate it if we continue to view, and LIKE the movies.

I must say that I find this to be a very strange statement. Whatever misgivings I may have about particular aspects of the films (and they are few), I enjoy the films wholly when I watch them. I find it difficult to see how anyone can enjoy a film if they are merely "tolerating" aspects of it.

If, in Jackson's adaptation of LotR, Wormtongue is killed by an arrow from Legolas' bow, then so be it. I can accept that. It will not detract from the film for me. Perhaps I am oddity amongst LotR fans, but I do not find myself constantly thinking how they could or should have been done when I am watching the films. I simply suspend my book-based sensibilities and enjoy ...