Saruman's ending (PJ's way) P.S. Spoilers! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Imladris · 10-26-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Imladris, it does appear that you are being bullied on this thread, but such is the price you pay for daring to take a more radical line.

Awww, at least someone noticed...

No...really...I just love to argue. And I bit...hehehe.

To be somewhat on topic...I take the stance of SpM.

gorthaur_cruel · 10-26-2004, 04:59 PM

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Does throwing a ball over the roof of a house go against gravity?

It only breaks the law when it doesn't come down again.

You misunderstood me.

I merely meant that even if a bow would usually go 400 yards, it doesn't mean it would fly 400 yards directly upwards, as it moves against gravity. The arrow would eventually slow to a crawl, stop, then come back down before reaching Orthanc.

The Only Real Estel · 10-28-2004, 09:05 PM

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I merely meant that even if a bow would usually go 400 yards, it doesn't mean it would fly 400 yards directly upwards, as it moves against gravity. The arrow would eventually slow to a crawl, stop, then come back down before reaching Orthanc

Given that it's all just good fantasy fun n' games I'm sure the bow would have no problem.
On a more Tolkienish note, I'm sure that a bow given to Legolas by Galadriel herself would be somewhat magical & would probably have very few limitations (realisticly).

Boromir88 · 10-29-2004, 04:28 AM

Estel, not JUST the bow, we also know Legolas has an ability to just replenish arrows in his quiver, so they too are magical. I wonder if they also defy the law of gravity, lol.

gorthaur_cruel · 10-29-2004, 04:41 AM

Well, yes. There's that.

But I still don't understand why they moved Saruman to the top of Orthanc as opposed to his balcony, as in the book. I can think of several reasons why Saruman would not talk to them from the top of Orthanc; none as to why he would.

Elianna · 10-29-2004, 07:25 PM

I made the physics calculations and Lego couldn't shoot an arrow to the top of Orthanc. (Even using the amazing 150 lbs. draw strength of his spiffy Lothlórien bow.) The arrow couldn't be able to withstand the amazing amount of acceleration needed to get it to the top. (Even notched with the spiffy flint only found in the Silverlode.)

So we return to: Why on top of Orthanc? The balcony makes so much more sense...

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-29-2004, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Elianna

So we return to: Why on top of Orthanc?

Presumably for reasons of dramatic effect, courtesy of artistic licence.

As The Only Real Estel impied, in a world where Orcs, Elves, Dwarves and Elephant-sized spiders exist, why shouldn't an arrow defy gravity in such a manner?

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 08-05-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gorthaur_cruel

Well, yes. There's that.

But I still don't understand why they moved Saruman to the top of Orthanc as opposed to his balcony, as in the book. I can think of several reasons why Saruman would not talk to them from the top of Orthanc; none as to why he would.

So he could fall.

jezebelus · 04-04-2007, 04:55 AM

They should show that scene in the movie. I mean Saruman't death. The last scene I remember was on his tower while tree-man were destroying his empire.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 08-05-2007, 04:33 PM

I have the EE RotK and heres how it goes...

Gandalf comes to Isengaurd for info and Saurman pulls out the Palantir and Wormtounge comes up and Theoden convinces him to come down and so Grima starts to, then Saurman smacks him, Grima falls pulls his dagger from the sheath stabs Saurman in the back 3 times Legolas shoots him with his bow and arrow, in the heart, Saurman falls onto his machinery, and so ends Saurman.

Hope this helps.

10-29-2004, 07:25 PM	#6
Elianna Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ad finem itineris Posts: 384	I made the physics calculations and Lego couldn't shoot an arrow to the top of Orthanc. (Even using the amazing 150 lbs. draw strength of his spiffy Lothlórien bow.) The arrow couldn't be able to withstand the amazing amount of acceleration needed to get it to the top. (Even notched with the spiffy flint only found in the Silverlode.) So we return to: Why on top of Orthanc? The balcony makes so much more sense... __________________ Enyale cuilenya, ú-enyale mandenya.

04-04-2007, 04:55 AM	#9
jezebelus Newly Deceased Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	They should show that scene in the movie. I mean Saruman't death. The last scene I remember was on his tower while tree-man were destroying his empire. __________________ diseasesarchive.com

08-05-2007, 04:33 PM	#10
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Ee I have the EE RotK and heres how it goes... Gandalf comes to Isengaurd for info and Saurman pulls out the Palantir and Wormtounge comes up and Theoden convinces him to come down and so Grima starts to, then Saurman smacks him, Grima falls pulls his dagger from the sheath stabs Saurman in the back 3 times Legolas shoots him with his bow and arrow, in the heart, Saurman falls onto his machinery, and so ends Saurman. Hope this helps. __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

10-29-2004, 04:28 AM	#4
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Estel, not JUST the bow, we also know Legolas has an ability to just replenish arrows in his quiver, so they too are magical. I wonder if they also defy the law of gravity, lol.

10-29-2004, 04:41 AM	#5
gorthaur_cruel Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 92	Well, yes. There's that. But I still don't understand why they moved Saruman to the top of Orthanc as opposed to his balcony, as in the book. I can think of several reasons why Saruman would not talk to them from the top of Orthanc; none as to why he would.