Friends of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams - Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 10-28-2004, 07:22 PM

Nuru, I hope my post wasn't a little too - um - romantic....

anyway, your ideas do sound good to me. They don't conflict with anything I'm thinking. But Ædegard isn't likely to bring up what's on his mind really quickly, because he is such a mull-er. So there may be plenty of opportunity for the two to read and mis-read each other before what they really think/feel comes to the surface.

Hope that works for ya!

Nurumaiel · 10-29-2004, 11:49 AM

Not too romantic, I think. There weren't any passionate speeches of love... that might puzzle Leafa a bit.

It all sounds good.

This couple sure does have to go through a lot, don't they?

It's a good thing Liornung's around.

mark12_30 · 10-31-2004, 05:42 PM

I'm stalled a bit because I had YIM'ed with alak and she had been planning for Erebemlin to round everybody up and move camp away from the battleground, hopefully southward-- is that away from the merlocks at this point, lmp? I hope so. I'm not sure if Erebemlin's move has happened yet? I may take the liberty just to push things along. And I think if we do move, it won't be *that far* (Very tired horses, very tired campers) and Mellonin and Mellondu won't wake up at all. I imagine Erebemlin would carry Mellondu (i.e. hold him in front of him as he rode) and Ravion would carry Mellonin (same way.)

Or, we could have a protracted argument about the move, decide against it much to Erebemlin's annoyance, post an elvish guard-- Taitheneb and Erebemin could take turns-- and everyone else could sleep by the fire. The fire is at least several bowshots away from the battleground.

alaklondewen · 10-31-2004, 08:19 PM

Helen, Erebemlin has taken charge and given orders to move.

I have given enough room that if anyone wishes to argue with him...it is very possible. I do think that they really do need to move as it seems they are still awfully close, and it may help psychologically, too, to put some distance between the events and their campsite. This, of course, is open to debate.

Aylwen, I hope Bellyn will tell Erebemlin of her dream. I think it will be a reminder to him to continue the quest, even if Amroth is not "present".

littlemanpoet · 11-01-2004, 08:01 PM

I tried to post this yesterday but my internet service was uncooperative.

The way I see it, the humans are all pretty demoralized after the loss of Gwyllion and the wounds to all who received them, not to mention the loss of Raefindan to Tharonwe's schemes. In such a state, I can't think of anyone to get in an argument with Erebemlin that might otherwise in a more rested and brighter frame of mind.

The merlocks will be quite busy feeding on their own. They are not stupid. They saw how easily they were picked off by the group of humans and Elves and do not relish another attack when there is more than enough to eat. The strongest motivation that they have at this point, after sating their lust for biped flesh, is revenge against Tharonwe for betraying them into the slaughter they have experienced.

That's my take, at any rate, so go with Erebemlin leading the group out of the swamp.

Tharonwe and Raefindan are, and will be, farther out of the swamp than the group. Maybe one of the Rangers will pick up their trail, if they happen across it (something that Tharonwe has considered, and is therefore pushing ahead quickly, since he's sure that Amroth is still heading toward Nimrodel).

Which means, come to think of it, that Tharonwe is more or less leading the group to Nimrodel. Whether they would think of that or not is in doubt. Whether Tharonwe would think of this and stop, has yet to be determined. Any thoughts?

mark12_30 · 11-01-2004, 08:33 PM

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Which means, come to think of it, that Tharonwe is more or less leading the group to Nimrodel. Whether they would think of that or not is in doubt. Whether Tharonwe would think of this and stop, has yet to be determined. Any thoughts?

Begin Tuppence:

I think that the elves, remembering how eager Amroth was to confront Tharonwe, would want to avoid letting him get too far away, in case Amroth resurfaced. I don't think it would be an avid pursuit.

Nimrodel is still in South Gondor, in the regions of the paths of the dead. I'm imagining that, if they knew they were headed to South Gondor, the group will head towards Mindolluin rather than crossing the White Mountains in winter? And I don't see the Gondorians objecting to that; how the Rohirrim will feel about it is another question.

Perhaps the Gondorians (Especially Erundil and Ravion) see their duty to return home and report what they have seen? The elves don't argue since Tharonwe is going that way. Mellondu and Mellonin are not sorry to be headed home-- that is, Mellondu isn't sorry until he has more dreams about Nimrodel.

I'm not sure what Aeron would think about returning to Gondor... Immy?

I've got to get back into having my characters dreaming... perhaps when Erebemlin is happily setting up camp further from the battleground.

End tuppence.

Imladris · 11-01-2004, 08:56 PM

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I'm not sure what Aeron would think about returning to Gondor... Immy?

Aeron won't care....he never really did care where he went as long as he didn't get in trouble...but even the merchant won't scare im now.

10-29-2004, 11:49 AM	#2
Nurumaiel Vice of Twilight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: on a mountain Posts: 1,121	Not too romantic, I think. There weren't any passionate speeches of love... that might puzzle Leafa a bit. It all sounds good. This couple sure does have to go through a lot, don't they? It's a good thing Liornung's around. __________________ In the fury of the moment I can see the Master's hand in every leaf that trembles, in every grain of sand.

10-31-2004, 05:42 PM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	I'm stalled a bit because I had YIM'ed with alak and she had been planning for Erebemlin to round everybody up and move camp away from the battleground, hopefully southward-- is that away from the merlocks at this point, lmp? I hope so. I'm not sure if Erebemlin's move has happened yet? I may take the liberty just to push things along. And I think if we do move, it won't be that far (Very tired horses, very tired campers) and Mellonin and Mellondu won't wake up at all. I imagine Erebemlin would carry Mellondu (i.e. hold him in front of him as he rode) and Ravion would carry Mellonin (same way.) Or, we could have a protracted argument about the move, decide against it much to Erebemlin's annoyance, post an elvish guard-- Taitheneb and Erebemin could take turns-- and everyone else could sleep by the fire. The fire is at least several bowshots away from the battleground. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

10-31-2004, 08:19 PM	#4
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	Helen, Erebemlin has taken charge and given orders to move. I have given enough room that if anyone wishes to argue with him...it is very possible. I do think that they really do need to move as it seems they are still awfully close, and it may help psychologically, too, to put some distance between the events and their campsite. This, of course, is open to debate. Aylwen, I hope Bellyn will tell Erebemlin of her dream. I think it will be a reminder to him to continue the quest, even if Amroth is not "present". __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

10-28-2004, 07:22 PM	#1
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Nuru, I hope my post wasn't a little too - um - romantic.... anyway, your ideas do sound good to me. They don't conflict with anything I'm thinking. But Ædegard isn't likely to bring up what's on his mind really quickly, because he is such a mull-er. So there may be plenty of opportunity for the two to read and mis-read each other before what they really think/feel comes to the surface. Hope that works for ya!

11-01-2004, 08:01 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I tried to post this yesterday but my internet service was uncooperative. The way I see it, the humans are all pretty demoralized after the loss of Gwyllion and the wounds to all who received them, not to mention the loss of Raefindan to Tharonwe's schemes. In such a state, I can't think of anyone to get in an argument with Erebemlin that might otherwise in a more rested and brighter frame of mind. The merlocks will be quite busy feeding on their own. They are not stupid. They saw how easily they were picked off by the group of humans and Elves and do not relish another attack when there is more than enough to eat. The strongest motivation that they have at this point, after sating their lust for biped flesh, is revenge against Tharonwe for betraying them into the slaughter they have experienced. That's my take, at any rate, so go with Erebemlin leading the group out of the swamp. Tharonwe and Raefindan are, and will be, farther out of the swamp than the group. Maybe one of the Rangers will pick up their trail, if they happen across it (something that Tharonwe has considered, and is therefore pushing ahead quickly, since he's sure that Amroth is still heading toward Nimrodel). Which means, come to think of it, that Tharonwe is more or less leading the group to Nimrodel. Whether they would think of that or not is in doubt. Whether Tharonwe would think of this and stop, has yet to be determined. Any thoughts?