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Old 11-19-2004, 02:01 PM   #23
Essex
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Davem,

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And, as I understand it, this is the Christian position, in that Christianity teaches that we cannot achieve salvation through our own acts.
Whoops. I'll let my priest know on Sunday that I'm not bothering to go to Church as there's no point then!!!!

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Frodo's guilt is real, true guilt, because he did surrender to what he knew was Evil.
Can someone point out to me the part of the book after the Ring is destroyed where we see Frodo feeling guilty...........

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but his his feelings of guilt would not be valid. They would be false, & so invalidate his need to go into exile.
Go into exile? He was given 'the grace of the Valar' and he's going to the West / Undying Lands / Paradise / Nirvana / Valhalla / Heaven - whatever you want to call it. He is going to a BETTER PLACE. Yes, he's leaving behind the people he loves (but also following Bilbo, the person I believe he loves the most), but you say he's going to the West just because he feels guilty?

Methinks not.
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