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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles)
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"Would the Quest of the Ring end in everlasting victory (Frodo casts the ring/is pushed into the fire), everlasting defeat"
============= Certainly not "everlasting" defeat. The valar, or, if necessary, Iluvatar would have eventually intervened. My understanding of free will, and in particular the pre-Christian Christian LOTR philosophy, is that this can lead to long periods of "darkness" if evil is ascendant (much of the Second Age, for example) but that eventually there would be a redress of events. Think of Gandalf's commment somewhere that he would not have failed if anything survived which could flourish (I don't recall the quote- obviously). And also Eru's comment to Melkor: Quote:
allowing free will of good and evil peoples, including a failure of good peoples to effectiively unite and act leading to defeats- thus free will acts of good guys and bad guys having a real effect, while still allowing for an eventual "redemption" of Middle-earth. ================== As for the Ringwraiths, it seems highly probable they would not have really followed Frodo. (In Letters): Quote:
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