Who is your favorite Silmarillion character and why - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gil-Galad · 12-20-2004, 04:37 PM

i didn't mean it like that. Elwe Singollo, i meant that if Fingolfin prepared himself to face Morgoth he might have won the day, i never comment to make the story unintresting, just think about it seesh....people always get me mad by throwing my comments back into my face...

mark12_30 · 12-20-2004, 07:32 PM

Cheer up, Gil-Galad, I doubt it's anything quite so personal as that. But in general, on a discussion forum, what do we have to go by beside the words typed into the post? That's why I end up rereading my own posts... sometimes two or three or five or six times. I edit them aplenty, too, because if it's worth posting, it's worth being as clear as I can be about what I really mean.

Tolkien re-wrote things all of the time...

Squatter of Amon Rudh is a master at saying exactly what he means. So is Mister Underhill. There are others, plenty of 'em. It's an art. I'm not saying, examine everything you type as you type it. But you can check it again afterwards when you are out of steam, so to speak, and see if it has the general impact you had in mind.

I'm intrigued by your idea about Fingolfin (one of my favorites.) What kind of preparations are you suggesting? Mental, emotional, physical, other? Do you really think he could have finished Morgoth off by strength of arms? A romantic thought, but appealing.

I like Gil-Galad, mostly because of Sam's song which I always thought was totally cool. I was thinking today about trying to 'finish' it. Kinda sacreligious, I know. Part of the appeal is that it's unfinished... But I love the song. And I love the Stephen Oliver tune, too.

Lhunardawen · 12-21-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gil-galad

to me, i think Fingolfin kinda was stupid attacking Morgoth through anger, he should have prepared himself...

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

I'm intrigued by your idea about Fingolfin (one of my favorites.) What kind of preparations are you suggesting? Mental, emotional, physical, other? Do you really think he could have finished Morgoth off by strength of arms? A romantic thought, but appealing.

Hmm...interesting topic of discussion!

You're right, Gil-galad. Fingolfin could have undergone some kind of preparation first before battling with Morgoth. After all, as we have seen in their fight, he was not completely out of his league, and surely more preparation wold have enabled him to defeat Morgoth. As a matter of fact, he has hewn Morgoth's flesh so many times, and that gave him and his house the right to earn the Dark Lord's wrath. However, it was the moment's adrenaline rush that gave him all the strength and courage he would have needed...more than he could ever muster. I believe that had the battle been delayed, Fingolfin would have been more helpless.

As for the thread's question: I'll go for Ereinion, too.

And Beren and Luthien. Oh, and Huan. Best non-biped character of all!

mark12_30 · 12-21-2004, 10:59 AM

ps. Oddly and to my own surprise, Melian has been my favorite-character-of-the-moment for over a month now.

EDIT: Whups, I forgot to say why. Because she sings! And I'm frantically trying to pull together a CD of Christmas Carols, and I am gaping wide-eyed into the barrel of a fully-loaded Christmas trying to get my software to put together two WAV files so that one is the left-channel and the other is the right-channel-- AUGH-- and the days tick by and the clock ticks by and I stay up til midnight. AUGH.

So I need to remember that the point is, The Song and how you sing it. Melian, Melian... Yes, good reminder.

Gil-Galad · 12-21-2004, 11:11 AM

Well it would probaly be more Phyiscal and mentally training, if Fingolfin thought of a plan, liek draw Morgoth out farther from the gates and such, he might have had greater impact, and no interupttions, maybe even direct his blows as well...my mind is rather blank so i got to re-read Silmarilion, but when i do i'll post here again

ohtatyaro · 01-31-2005, 07:12 AM

Gelmir guy. I simphatize with him, indeed. To be so badly used - have brother killed, be enslaved, escape, and than having your girlfreind fall for the guy you count to be your friend.

Formendacil · 01-31-2005, 12:58 PM

Tuor.

His story, while full of trials, tribulations, and hardships, nonetheless seems to end a more-or-less happy one. He and Idril seem to be granted eternal life together...

Besides which, as Gelmir and Arminas noted to Turin in Nargothrond, he was a genuinely nice guy, which you can see for yourself in his "Coming to Gondolin" and his portrayal in the original "Fall of Gondolin".

12-20-2004, 04:37 PM	#1
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	i didn't mean it like that. Elwe Singollo, i meant that if Fingolfin prepared himself to face Morgoth he might have won the day, i never comment to make the story unintresting, just think about it seesh....people always get me mad by throwing my comments back into my face... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

12-20-2004, 07:32 PM	#2
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Cheer up, Gil-Galad, I doubt it's anything quite so personal as that. But in general, on a discussion forum, what do we have to go by beside the words typed into the post? That's why I end up rereading my own posts... sometimes two or three or five or six times. I edit them aplenty, too, because if it's worth posting, it's worth being as clear as I can be about what I really mean. Tolkien re-wrote things all of the time... Squatter of Amon Rudh is a master at saying exactly what he means. So is Mister Underhill. There are others, plenty of 'em. It's an art. I'm not saying, examine everything you type as you type it. But you can check it again afterwards when you are out of steam, so to speak, and see if it has the general impact you had in mind. I'm intrigued by your idea about Fingolfin (one of my favorites.) What kind of preparations are you suggesting? Mental, emotional, physical, other? Do you really think he could have finished Morgoth off by strength of arms? A romantic thought, but appealing. I like Gil-Galad, mostly because of Sam's song which I always thought was totally cool. I was thinking today about trying to 'finish' it. Kinda sacreligious, I know. Part of the appeal is that it's unfinished... But I love the song. And I love the Stephen Oliver tune, too. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

12-21-2004, 10:59 AM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	ps. Oddly and to my own surprise, Melian has been my favorite-character-of-the-moment for over a month now. EDIT: Whups, I forgot to say why. Because she sings! And I'm frantically trying to pull together a CD of Christmas Carols, and I am gaping wide-eyed into the barrel of a fully-loaded Christmas trying to get my software to put together two WAV files so that one is the left-channel and the other is the right-channel-- AUGH-- and the days tick by and the clock ticks by and I stay up til midnight. AUGH. So I need to remember that the point is, The Song and how you sing it. Melian, Melian... Yes, good reminder. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 12-21-2004 at 11:24 AM. Reason: spelling charater. Charcatur. Chara-- oh, nevermind.

12-21-2004, 11:11 AM	#5
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Well it would probaly be more Phyiscal and mentally training, if Fingolfin thought of a plan, liek draw Morgoth out farther from the gates and such, he might have had greater impact, and no interupttions, maybe even direct his blows as well...my mind is rather blank so i got to re-read Silmarilion, but when i do i'll post here again __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-31-2005, 07:12 AM	#6
ohtatyaro Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: here, there, everywhere... Posts: 121	Gelmir guy. I simphatize with him, indeed. To be so badly used - have brother killed, be enslaved, escape, and than having your girlfreind fall for the guy you count to be your friend. __________________ Reading this sig costs three Galleons, nine Sickles, and a Knut. Pay up!

01-31-2005, 12:58 PM	#7
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Tuor. His story, while full of trials, tribulations, and hardships, nonetheless seems to end a more-or-less happy one. He and Idril seem to be granted eternal life together... Besides which, as Gelmir and Arminas noted to Turin in Nargothrond, he was a genuinely nice guy, which you can see for yourself in his "Coming to Gondolin" and his portrayal in the original "Fall of Gondolin". __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.