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A Mere Boggart
Join Date: Mar 2004
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The films were literally stuffed with good actors so it's very difficult to think of the best one, but this also has the advantage of making the weaker actors stand out. In many cases, where a character was messed about with a little too much (e.g. Faramir), I am prepared to allow for this. In the case of Faramir, I think David Wenham did a decent job with the part he was given; it was wrong, but he did offer up a sensitive portrayal. But I'm not prepared to allow for it in every case. This will sound rather catty but I found Liv Tyler a little wooden in the films. Yes, the role was 'beefed up' and that will colour my opinion, but I found her a little too expressionless. She is a beautiful woman, and seemed at times merely to concentrate on portraying Arwen's beauty; seeing as they did 'up' the role of Arwen, I think she could have put a little more into it. Now you're all free to call me nasty.
However, I was disappointed with much about how the Elves came across - they were almost too ethereal at times. I did not picture Elrond in the manner that he was portrayed in the films, but he did come across as truly powerful, unlike some other Elves I dare not mention. The best Elven portrayal was Galadriel though - apart from the 'scary moment' she played Galadriel very powerfully.Its hard to pick a 'best' portrayal. Part of me wants to go for Bilbo because Ian Holm did him so well, and he is my favourite character anyway. I also want to go for Bernard Hill's Theoden as he played him with real gravitas and brought tears to my eyes when he was mourning his son's death. Sean Bean was splendid as ever as Boromir; it seemed a part made for him. And Ian McKellen was an excellent Gandalf. But I think, all in all, my vote would have to go for Christopher Lee as Saruman. He was a character I could not entirely fix on a visualisation for in the books - his image kept 'shifting' (as does his character!) and I saw him more on a 'tjhought' level, as in I saw how his mind was working and heard his voice, but no picture came up. But Chris Lee was perfect. He was sinister, commanding, not a little frightening, and perfectly controlled.
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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle...
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Although I love Christopher Lee, until I watched the EE this morning I thought that he had missed the "seductive" aspect to his voice but he captured it perfectly. I wish they had had more of the "we will have peace scene" - For me the acid test is whether film image has "overwritten" my mental image from the books and radio version. In many cases it has - Boromir, Galadriel, Elrond, , Theoden, Eomer and despite initial misgivingsMerry and Pippin & Aragorn and Eowyn. Gimli, Gandalf are neutrals ..... the cracks of doom scene made me forgive "sam and Frodo" a lot but I reaqlly think they played Frodo to young and Sam too fat... (and for me Ian Holm and Bill Nighy are just perfect in the radio version). However Faramir, Denethor and Arwen ...................... nnnoooooooooooooooooo Faramir - the part was awful rather than the actor and the same with Denethor ... what ever Denethor's mental state I am sure his table manners would not allowed him to slurp his food like that. And Arwen .... too wooden, too trout pouty, too irritating...
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Sword of Spirit
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oh, I'm around.
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I agree with Boromir and King of the North.
When I first saw this post, I was thinking Denethor for the worst character. His potrayal was horrible. From the books, I thought him a once kind man who had been driven mad with despair. The movies made him wholly evil. Even in the flashback with Boromir, Faramir and him in Osgiliath, he was a complete jerk! He did have some good lines, but helik a manicdepressant most of the time. You'd turn your head and he'd change from a grieving father to a power-hungry psycho. It was ridiculous. But after reading King's post, I agree that Legolas is worse. His image was really good in FotR, but was just bad the last two. Seriously, even if the uber-stunts weren't bad enough, he had this whole overplayed I'm-better-than-Gimli-in-everything attitude . Now, on a better note, I personally thought that Viggo Mortensen did an excellent job playing Aragorn. He at first appeared as a simple ranger who had given up who he might become. But slowly he realized that his path was leading him to a kingship. And as he grasped that role, I thought he really did a good job of taking control of the plot. BTW, I thought Gimli's character was hilarious in RotK, if somewhat unrealistic.
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The only thing that gets me from not choosing Denethor, is John Noble's acting. I put aside my own personal view of Denethor (from what I learned from the books) and I just said, John Noble plays a wonderful scum bag. However, I agree with Mith, I think the food shoveling is just over the top. I don't care how evil PJ makes Denethor, it's unnecessary to make the guy a slob too. My view is, I still have my view of Denethor from the books, the movies don't change that, the movies are purely entertainment, and since Noble did such a great performance, and a guy that you too would want to hit with a staff if you had it, then I give a thumbs up to him.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles)
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As has been noted above, there are a remarkable number of good
characters/portrayals in the movies. While Gandalf and Boromir (among others)are well acted and the casting by PJ and friends was good I'd say Eowyn, partly because I had significant doubts that the character could be adequately portrayed in the movies. The worst must again be mentioned, Denethor! While not depicted in the book as kindly (ala Theoden) I see him as more a tragic hero, flawed but dedicated to Gondor, and to some extent, the West as a whole. Although in one of his Letters JRRT takes a surprisingly negative view of Denethor. His movie bits were awful not just as a one-dimentional "crazy" but for the ridiculous Gandalf/Denethor interactions.
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Denethor got some of the best lines in the EE *happy sigh* but, as much as I love him, I have to nominate Théoden for best character in the movie. I love the look on his face when he sees Ol' Witchy swoop down towards him, I love his lines, I love his armor and I especially love his sword.
*giggles* But, and I bet you saw this coming a mile off, Legolas for worst. the horrible lines ("A Diversion!" Gee, ya think? *lightbulb*), the stilted acting (Is it too much to ask to have some emotion and variation in his speech? When the extras are better actors than you are something has to be up), that blimmin' scene with the Mumuk, pure cheese there! *groans* But to the new Denethor lines I have only one thing to say:
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Shade of Carn Dūm
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs
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Laconic Loreman
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Come on now, I think PJ just has an obsession of slobbish eaters. Take FOTR, with PJ's cameo, bites into a carrot and belches. TTT, Gimli stuffing his face full in Theoden's hall (I seriously doubt a dwarf would do that, especially in a king's hall, oh yeah then Gimli belches). Then ROTK, a steward spitting cherry juice, and chomping while Pippin's singing, highly inappropriate for a steward surely.
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Shade of Carn Dūm
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs
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