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Formendacil · 01-13-2005, 03:42 PM

Well, I have only readed BOTR once (and never intend to do so again, on my honour!), and I have not actually read Master Narfforc's parody, but I thought that it might not hurt a little to point out the distinction between a more "commercial" parody, such as BOTR, and a parody such as Narfforc's.

The difference doesn't lie so much in the way the base material is rewritten, meaning that the new Joke-meanings of the names aren't the difference.

The difference is the care and attention given by author to his work. In the case of Narfforc, it would seem apparent that he writes his parody, because he LOVES the source-work, not to denigrate it, but as a kind of in-joke to amuse himself and fellow-fans.

For the same reason, his names and parodies will mimic the original more closely, and hence be all the funnier. If you KNOW what it's supposed to be (aka Tolkien trivia), then you will find a comedic slant all the funnier.

Of course, any kind of parody ultimately boils down to flattery. And even if flattery isn't always sincere, the very fact that something is being flattered testifies to a certain quality or gift in the original, which in this case is the Lord of the Rings.

narfforc · 01-14-2005, 09:08 AM

To Formendacil, Hi, You are quite right when you say I do this through the love of Tolkiens works. I have a number of parodies, done by various authors, that quite frankly can`t have read much Tolkien, and decided to jump on the bandwagon. In my story the aspects of all the characters and their race has been exaggerated or inverted and their histories made to fit. My hope is that those people who went to the cinema to watch the films and then read the books, will read mine and be confused, for there are many references to The Silmarillion. Now if I can get one percent of the people who buy my book to go on and read more of Tolkien, I will be a happy man. I hope to have the book published before June.

narfforc · 01-26-2005, 08:11 AM

Talking about parodies, I have just read the hilarious Sillymarillion. If you haven't, rush out and buy it. This book is a masterpiece, and goes above any parody written so far. It takes humour to a new level.

narfforc · 02-28-2012, 11:25 AM

Well it's finished now, the first book is out on Amazon Kindle and the second book is due out soon......I hope that if you buy it you'll find the in-jokes funny. I wrote the book I wanted to read as a Tolkien reader, and it's taken nine years to finish.

because my crayon kept breaking.

.

davem · 02-29-2012, 04:28 AM

Here you go: Amazon UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/Followship-R...0510795&sr=1-1 and US : http://www.amazon.com/Followship-Rin...0510963&sr=8-1

narfforc · 09-19-2012, 06:34 AM

The third book is almost ready....The Retinue of the King....thanks to any who have supported me.

DanielTaylor · 09-24-2012, 01:03 PM

Well, different people different choices. parodies is amazing. It was great to read and understand it. What about a next publication? Has it published?

01-13-2005, 03:42 PM	#1
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Well, I have only readed BOTR once (and never intend to do so again, on my honour!), and I have not actually read Master Narfforc's parody, but I thought that it might not hurt a little to point out the distinction between a more "commercial" parody, such as BOTR, and a parody such as Narfforc's. The difference doesn't lie so much in the way the base material is rewritten, meaning that the new Joke-meanings of the names aren't the difference. The difference is the care and attention given by author to his work. In the case of Narfforc, it would seem apparent that he writes his parody, because he LOVES the source-work, not to denigrate it, but as a kind of in-joke to amuse himself and fellow-fans. For the same reason, his names and parodies will mimic the original more closely, and hence be all the funnier. If you KNOW what it's supposed to be (aka Tolkien trivia), then you will find a comedic slant all the funnier. Of course, any kind of parody ultimately boils down to flattery. And even if flattery isn't always sincere, the very fact that something is being flattered testifies to a certain quality or gift in the original, which in this case is the Lord of the Rings. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

01-14-2005, 09:08 AM	#2
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	I couldnt have put it better myself. To Formendacil, Hi, You are quite right when you say I do this through the love of Tolkiens works. I have a number of parodies, done by various authors, that quite frankly can`t have read much Tolkien, and decided to jump on the bandwagon. In my story the aspects of all the characters and their race has been exaggerated or inverted and their histories made to fit. My hope is that those people who went to the cinema to watch the films and then read the books, will read mine and be confused, for there are many references to The Silmarillion. Now if I can get one percent of the people who buy my book to go on and read more of Tolkien, I will be a happy man. I hope to have the book published before June.

01-26-2005, 08:11 AM	#3
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Talking about parodies, I have just read the hilarious Sillymarillion. If you haven't, rush out and buy it. This book is a masterpiece, and goes above any parody written so far. It takes humour to a new level. Last edited by narfforc; 06-24-2012 at 12:28 PM.

02-28-2012, 11:25 AM	#4
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Well it's finished now, the first book is out on Amazon Kindle and the second book is due out soon......I hope that if you buy it you'll find the in-jokes funny. I wrote the book I wanted to read as a Tolkien reader, and it's taken nine years to finish. because my crayon kept breaking. . __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

02-29-2012, 04:28 AM	#5
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Here you go: Amazon UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/Followship-R...0510795&sr=1-1 and US : http://www.amazon.com/Followship-Rin...0510963&sr=8-1 __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

09-19-2012, 06:34 AM	#6
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	The third book is almost ready....The Retinue of the King....thanks to any who have supported me. __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

09-24-2012, 01:03 PM	#7
DanielTaylor Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3	The Lord of the Grins. Well, different people different choices. parodies is amazing. It was great to read and understand it. What about a next publication? Has it published?