Gandalf Vs. The Witch King - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

alatar · 01-17-2005, 09:52 AM

St. Povis

I'm with you.

What kills me is that Jackson put this scene in for the Tolkien fans, but left it out of the theatrical cut as so...what...not to confuse my illiterate sister who had a hard time keeping up with the story anyway?

I'm going to let go now.

Essex · 01-17-2005, 02:01 PM

I've finally realised why Jackson (and Boyens) made Gandalf's Staff break.

They realised what a storm this would cause if they did this, especially in the EE DVD. They decided to make this change and then secretly visit all the major Tolkien Forum sites and have a good giggle at the vast majority of people blowing their tops at the Sacriligeous Change they made.

Just imagine the scene:

Jackson: I know we can't do this to the cinematic edition, 'cos a whole load of people would be so disgusted they wouldn't buy either version on DVD and we'll be WELL out of pocket. Let's put it on the EE and it'll be too late!!!!

Boyens: Yeah! It'll serve them right for having a go at me for the ohter Changes. Faramir taking the hobbits to Osgillaith!!! HA, that's nothing compared to this! I knew I'd have the final laugh. Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!

Walsh: Yeah, but you can look smug explaining 'Book to Script' on the Appendicies when I have to stay in the background. NOT FAIR! Hey, but what the heck, it'll really annoy the nerds out there.

Jackson: Yeah, and if they're THAT annoyed all they have to do is buy a DVD Recorder with a hard disk (well, I can afford one), remove the few seconds of Sacriligeous Content and make their own copy. Problem solved!

St. Povis · 01-17-2005, 07:17 PM

Yeah, I should probably let go, too. I can't help but wonder whether or not there's yet another DVD forthcoming along those very same lines. (Knowing that the nerds/fanatics/whatever, like myself, will RUSH out to buy it to quench the flame they put inside of that camp of thinkers for one last payroll check.) If that were the case, the sickest thing about it is that I would actually feel compelled to thank him for giving me this disease, just so the cure could be so relieving. I just can't believe that the production and direction staff let that slip at the very end of the series, unless they are SERIOUSLY twisted, or passive agressive individuals hoping to send the message that they are absolutely-never-to-pick-up-the-torch-ever-again-done making tolkein films.

It really is a puzzling piece of work that way.

I don't know. I'm not going to let it ruin my life or anything, but it is REALLY perplexing to me, and seems like a loose end.

01-19-2005, 04:47 PM

Just curious... has anyone found or read an interview with Peter Jackson explaining his reasoning behind this scene?? I haven't been able to find anything, though I've looked quite a bit. He never really seems to comment on it anywhere on the DVDs that I could find. So if you've seen an interview, clip, article, etc. please post it!!

St. Povis · 01-20-2005, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shire guy

Just curious... has anyone found or read an interview with Peter Jackson explaining his reasoning behind this scene?? I haven't been able to find anything, though I've looked quite a bit. He never really seems to comment on it anywhere on the DVDs that I could find. So if you've seen an interview, clip, article, etc. please post it!!

The DVD EE had a lot of commentary. I haven't heard it all, but I did listen to the one with the writers and Jackson. It seems that they are aware of the fact that they took liberties with that scene. Other than that, I haven't read or heard anything about him answering questions about that scene. Anyone else out there have any clues?

01-17-2005, 07:17 PM	#3
St. Povis Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 11	It makes me wonder Yeah, I should probably let go, too. I can't help but wonder whether or not there's yet another DVD forthcoming along those very same lines. (Knowing that the nerds/fanatics/whatever, like myself, will RUSH out to buy it to quench the flame they put inside of that camp of thinkers for one last payroll check.) If that were the case, the sickest thing about it is that I would actually feel compelled to thank him for giving me this disease, just so the cure could be so relieving. I just can't believe that the production and direction staff let that slip at the very end of the series, unless they are SERIOUSLY twisted, or passive agressive individuals hoping to send the message that they are absolutely-never-to-pick-up-the-torch-ever-again-done making tolkein films. It really is a puzzling piece of work that way. I don't know. I'm not going to let it ruin my life or anything, but it is REALLY perplexing to me, and seems like a loose end.

01-17-2005, 09:52 AM	#1
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	St. Povis I'm with you. What kills me is that Jackson put this scene in for the Tolkien fans, but left it out of the theatrical cut as so...what...not to confuse my illiterate sister who had a hard time keeping up with the story anyway? I'm going to let go now.

01-17-2005, 02:01 PM	#2
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	I've finally realised why Jackson (and Boyens) made Gandalf's Staff break. They realised what a storm this would cause if they did this, especially in the EE DVD. They decided to make this change and then secretly visit all the major Tolkien Forum sites and have a good giggle at the vast majority of people blowing their tops at the Sacriligeous Change they made. *Just imagine the scene:* Jackson: I know we can't do this to the cinematic edition, 'cos a whole load of people would be so disgusted they wouldn't buy either version on DVD and we'll be WELL out of pocket. Let's put it on the EE and it'll be too late!!!! Boyens: Yeah! It'll serve them right for having a go at me for the ohter Changes. Faramir taking the hobbits to Osgillaith!!! HA, that's nothing compared to this! I knew I'd have the final laugh. Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!! Walsh: Yeah, but you can look smug explaining 'Book to Script' on the Appendicies when I have to stay in the background. NOT FAIR! Hey, but what the heck, it'll really annoy the nerds out there. Jackson: Yeah, and if they're THAT annoyed all they have to do is buy a DVD Recorder with a hard disk (well, I can afford one), remove the few seconds of Sacriligeous Content and make their own copy. Problem solved!

01-19-2005, 04:47 PM	#4
shire guy Guest Posts: n/a	Just curious... has anyone found or read an interview with Peter Jackson explaining his reasoning behind this scene?? I haven't been able to find anything, though I've looked quite a bit. He never really seems to comment on it anywhere on the DVDs that I could find. So if you've seen an interview, clip, article, etc. please post it!!