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Nuranar · 01-19-2005, 07:48 PM

The Woses, represented by Ghân-buri-Ghân? He is fat and not tall, and a Wild Man - not quite like the rest of Men of Middle-Earth. The only part I can't find a reference for is "in holes like rats."

Marky Lazer · 01-20-2005, 03:24 AM

It is a bit of a nasty one, so I toss in another hint...

It's one of the three ancient hobbit-kinds.

Soronumë · 01-20-2005, 07:23 AM

That doesn't still help me.... My friend has borrowed my copy of LotR... And still it wouldn't help since I could only say the Finnish version.

Nuranar · 01-20-2005, 09:06 AM

The Stoors are the broadest and heaviest (fattest), but the only mention of holes is made in reference to the Harfoots. Since it is said that all hobbits are inclined to be fat, I'm going to plunk for...

The Harfoots:

He is so fat - hobbitish, that's all (?)
Not big of height - "the Harfoots were... smaller, and shorter..."
Man but not quite - a hobbit, of course!
In holes like rats - "They... longest preserved their ancestral habit of living in tunnels and holes."

- LotR, Prologue, Concerning Hobbits

Marky Lazer · 01-21-2005, 02:16 AM

Which is correct!

Take it away Nuranar!

Nuranar · 01-23-2005, 05:57 PM

I, aloof but not alone, unsullied;
One of three, sundered, but close;
Seeing and hearing, perhaps, but
Never replying, heedless of the great voice.

Who or what is the speaker?

Garen LiLorian · 01-23-2005, 06:01 PM

Hmm. Sounds like one of the Elven rings.

Quote:

One of three, sundered, but close;

Leads me to believe the answer is Narya, the ring of Fire, wielded by Gandalf (since the other two were wielded by Elves... That's a little weak, I know)

01-19-2005, 07:48 PM	#1
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	Still trying The Woses, represented by Ghân-buri-Ghân? He is fat and not tall, and a Wild Man - not quite like the rest of Men of Middle-Earth. The only part I can't find a reference for is "in holes like rats." __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

01-20-2005, 03:24 AM	#2
Marky Lazer Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 82	It is a bit of a nasty one, so I toss in another hint... It's one of the three ancient hobbit-kinds. __________________ There are two kind of people. Those who have read Tolkien, and those who are going to read Tolkien.

01-20-2005, 07:23 AM	#3
Soronumë Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25	That doesn't still help me.... My friend has borrowed my copy of LotR... And still it wouldn't help since I could only say the Finnish version. __________________ And she was the child of stars, bearing their light on her forehead. Wisdom lies in her eyes and love in her heart.

01-20-2005, 09:06 AM	#4
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	That helps, but it still doesn't fit too neatly. The Stoors are the broadest and heaviest (fattest), but the only mention of holes is made in reference to the Harfoots. Since it is said that all hobbits are inclined to be fat, I'm going to plunk for... The Harfoots: He is so fat - hobbitish, that's all (?) Not big of height - "the Harfoots were... smaller, and shorter..." Man but not quite - a hobbit, of course! In holes like rats - "They... longest preserved their ancestral habit of living in tunnels and holes." - LotR, Prologue, Concerning Hobbits __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

01-21-2005, 02:16 AM	#5
Marky Lazer Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 82	Which is correct! Take it away Nuranar! __________________ There are two kind of people. Those who have read Tolkien, and those who are going to read Tolkien.

01-23-2005, 05:57 PM	#6
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	After a delay, here is my offering: I, aloof but not alone, unsullied; One of three, sundered, but close; Seeing and hearing, perhaps, but Never replying, heedless of the great voice. Who or what is the speaker? __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey