Friends of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams - Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 01-20-2005, 08:13 PM

So... we're heading towards our first southbound camp in the snowy fields of Gondor, right? And it's-- what, noon? Late afternoon?

littlemanpoet · 01-21-2005, 08:33 PM

Yes. I figure that with only six hours of riding, tops, with rests for the horses, the party doesn't catch up to Tharonwe and Raefindan until the next day.

mark12_30 · 01-21-2005, 10:12 PM

Poor tormented Raefindan.... Ugh.

mark12_30 · 01-29-2005, 09:28 AM

Bella and Mellonin are talking about Amroth. Aylwen, would you like to write that? I'd love to see how you would do it!

Nuru, maybe some tales by Liornung about Amroth would help Mellonin understand what's going on.

Or the elves could help explain. Maybe they'd have a vested interest in doing so?

Aylwen Dreamsong · 01-29-2005, 10:35 AM

Sorry I haven't been posting as often as I should. Exams were this week and I've been studying nonstop since last week, and I've caught some kind of cold/flu/sickness flying around lately and have been sleeping since I got home from school yesterday. It seems that these sleepless nights from exam week have caught up with me! Meanwhile I'll work on a post - hopefully I can get one up later today.

I hope everyone is doing well and as always...great posts from everyone!

-Aylwen

Edit: Post is up. If there is anything wrong with the information in it or the portrayal of Mellonin, just let me know and I will change it.

littlemanpoet · 01-29-2005, 06:46 PM

Helen, Aylwen, nice stuff!

Tharonwë is going to allow himself to be captured, and Raefindan rescued. Raefindan will be under continual hypnosis. Both Tharonwë's and Raefindan's minds will be closed to osanwë by Erebemlin and Taitheneb; only Amroth will be strong enough to break through this. I figure this is so because of the kind of practice Tharonwë has had over the years, both of at least keeping tabs on (and maybe controlling to a degree) Nimrodel and Mithrellas over the years from his swamp, and controlling the many generations of merlocks.

Tharonwë will attempt to bring others of the humans under hypnosis. This will be much more difficult. The question I have is, would Erebemlin and Taitheneb be able to detect Tharonwë's osanwë like a smell on the air, or like "frisking"? How much experience do Ereb and Taith have with the art?

Upon Tharonwë's capture (for which he'll offer little if any resistance), he will begin to measure the humans. Whom will he find most susceptible to his will, and on what grounds? Below are just guesses.

It took time with Raefindan, who was basically strong of mind and resistant, but Tharonwë had the luxury of time, and the leverage of Raefindan's internal conflict with having come from the future.

Aeron is by comparison lawless and unruly, and grieving. That makes him unstable and susceptible.

Erundil is stable of mind and heart and profession, and is less so.

Ravion is full of self-doubt and self-loathing; more susceptible.

Mellondu is quite strong of character and will, and holds the fëa of Amroth within him; this Tharonwë knows and therefore will shy away from him, leaving him for last.

Ædegard is ruled by his oath, which has a power of its own. If Tharonwë can leverage the oath, Ædegard proves susceptible; if Tharonwë discovers that through the oath Ædegard tenaciously resists his will, Ædegard becomes one of the least susceptible - and more likely to resort to physical violence,

Leafa is timid and accepting of others. She seems swayable.

Bellyn seems more grounded and sturdy overall.

Mellonin is conflicted. Susceptible.

Nethwador has a connection to Amroth and the Elves; his mind is probably somewhat foreign to Tharonwë. He might be next to last.

Is there anything I'm forgetting? Missing?

mark12_30 · 01-30-2005, 08:54 PM

Nuru, Aylwen, lovely posts. Were it not bedtime, I would reply! Tomorrow, I hope.

lmp, thanks for the outline! Food for thought...

01-20-2005, 08:13 PM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	So... we're heading towards our first southbound camp in the snowy fields of Gondor, right? And it's-- what, noon? Late afternoon? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-21-2005, 10:12 PM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Poor tormented Raefindan.... Ugh. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-29-2005, 09:28 AM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Bella and Mellonin are talking about Amroth. Aylwen, would you like to write that? I'd love to see how you would do it! Nuru, maybe some tales by Liornung about Amroth would help Mellonin understand what's going on. Or the elves could help explain. Maybe they'd have a vested interest in doing so? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-29-2005, 10:35 AM	#5
Aylwen Dreamsong The Melody of Misery Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Island of Conclusions (You get there by jumping!)... Posts: 1,147	Sorry I haven't been posting as often as I should. Exams were this week and I've been studying nonstop since last week, and I've caught some kind of cold/flu/sickness flying around lately and have been sleeping since I got home from school yesterday. It seems that these sleepless nights from exam week have caught up with me! Meanwhile I'll work on a post - hopefully I can get one up later today. I hope everyone is doing well and as always...great posts from everyone! -Aylwen Edit: Post is up. If there is anything wrong with the information in it or the portrayal of Mellonin, just let me know and I will change it. __________________ ...Come down now, they'll say. But everything looks perfect from far away - Come down now! But we'll stay. Last edited by Aylwen Dreamsong; 01-29-2005 at 04:48 PM.

01-30-2005, 08:54 PM	#7
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Nuru, Aylwen, lovely posts. Were it not bedtime, I would reply! Tomorrow, I hope. lmp, thanks for the outline! Food for thought... __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-21-2005, 08:33 PM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Yes. I figure that with only six hours of riding, tops, with rests for the horses, the party doesn't catch up to Tharonwe and Raefindan until the next day.

01-29-2005, 06:46 PM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Helen, Aylwen, nice stuff! Tharonwë is going to allow himself to be captured, and Raefindan rescued. Raefindan will be under continual hypnosis. Both Tharonwë's and Raefindan's minds will be closed to osanwë by Erebemlin and Taitheneb; only Amroth will be strong enough to break through this. I figure this is so because of the kind of practice Tharonwë has had over the years, both of at least keeping tabs on (and maybe controlling to a degree) Nimrodel and Mithrellas over the years from his swamp, and controlling the many generations of merlocks. Tharonwë will attempt to bring others of the humans under hypnosis. This will be much more difficult. The question I have is, would Erebemlin and Taitheneb be able to detect Tharonwë's osanwë like a smell on the air, or like "frisking"? How much experience do Ereb and Taith have with the art? Upon Tharonwë's capture (for which he'll offer little if any resistance), he will begin to measure the humans. Whom will he find most susceptible to his will, and on what grounds? Below are just guesses. It took time with Raefindan, who was basically strong of mind and resistant, but Tharonwë had the luxury of time, and the leverage of Raefindan's internal conflict with having come from the future. Aeron is by comparison lawless and unruly, and grieving. That makes him unstable and susceptible. Erundil is stable of mind and heart and profession, and is less so. Ravion is full of self-doubt and self-loathing; more susceptible. Mellondu is quite strong of character and will, and holds the fëa of Amroth within him; this Tharonwë knows and therefore will shy away from him, leaving him for last. Ædegard is ruled by his oath, which has a power of its own. If Tharonwë can leverage the oath, Ædegard proves susceptible; if Tharonwë discovers that through the oath Ædegard tenaciously resists his will, Ædegard becomes one of the least susceptible - and more likely to resort to physical violence, Leafa is timid and accepting of others. She seems swayable. Bellyn seems more grounded and sturdy overall. Mellonin is conflicted. Susceptible. Nethwador has a connection to Amroth and the Elves; his mind is probably somewhat foreign to Tharonwë. He might be next to last. Is there anything I'm forgetting? Missing?