The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Movies
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2005, 11:21 AM   #1
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Auspicious Wraith
 
Eomer of the Rohirrim's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 4,859
Eomer of the Rohirrim is a guest at the Prancing Pony.Eomer of the Rohirrim is a guest at the Prancing Pony.
Boots

When the Black Gate opened, all we could see was the Mouth of Sauron riding out, yes? But then, seconds later, it opens again and this absolutely gargantuan army comes pouring out. Where were they hiding?
__________________
Los Ingobernables de Harlond
Eomer of the Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2005, 04:28 PM   #2
Hikaru
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I pretty much agree with what others have said...Christopher Lee is a perfect Saruman, he is so gifted at capturing that element of horror and evil and has a perfect, resonant voice. I'm disappointed that they didn't include the Scouring of the Shire, but in fact, in the books it feels like the story is over but it isn't. For the purpose of a film, I can see why they chose to end the story in a more logical , straightforward way.

Denethor could have been so much better. In the books he is mad, but still a sympathetic character.

Loved the Mouth of Sauron...his mouth was so creepy and reptilian.

Loved the drinking scene with Legolas and Gimli, but I am annoyed that the poor Dwarf keeps getting used for comic relief. It would have been fun to see Legolas a bit ruffled.

And yes....poor Bill the Pony. They should have given him and Sam a five-second reunion. The horse was robbed, I tell ya!
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2005, 05:39 PM   #3
Kitanna
Child of the West
 
Kitanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn
Posts: 2,132
Kitanna is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.Kitanna is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
Shield

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim
When the Black Gate opened, all we could see was the Mouth of Sauron riding out, yes? But then, seconds later, it opens again and this absolutely gargantuan army comes pouring out. Where were they hiding?
The more important question in my mind is how come in TTT it takes two trolls to open the gate, but in ROTK it opens by itself? Is Sauron using the Dark side of the Force to open it from across Mordor?
Speaking of the Force you can see Gandalf using the Force on Aragorn. That part where you hear the Eye going "Aragorn..." the camera cuts to Gandalf for a second and you can see him wave his hand like he's using the Force.
__________________
"Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain
Kitanna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2005, 06:43 PM   #4
Tuor of Gondolin
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles)
Posts: 1,548
Tuor of Gondolin has just left Hobbiton.
Ooh! Kill Bill II, too (whatever).

Hmm. Let's see. If PJ likes horses LOTR fans could have put in a call to
Michael Corleone to have Luca Brasi have a chat with PJ. Hey, PJ ain't no bandleader.

I've only put on the movie and cast commentary, so far, to ROTK EE, but this
is rather typical of PJ and friends, on the one hand good special effects and
casting, on the other a number of gratuitous, and frequently pointless,
changes to LOTR. Arg!
__________________
Aure Entuluva!
Tuor of Gondolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2005, 11:03 AM   #5
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Auspicious Wraith
 
Eomer of the Rohirrim's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 4,859
Eomer of the Rohirrim is a guest at the Prancing Pony.Eomer of the Rohirrim is a guest at the Prancing Pony.
Boots

Maybe the Trolls opening the Gate in RotK were wearing Rings of Power, and were thus invisible.

Maybe the army were all on an exceedingly large platform which ascended after the Mouth had went through.
__________________
Los Ingobernables de Harlond
Eomer of the Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 02:02 PM   #6
SamwiseGamgee
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
SamwiseGamgee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg
Posts: 378
SamwiseGamgee has just left Hobbiton.
Pipe

Maybe tiny weasels bribed gandalf to dance like a ballerina in the halls of Minas Tirith.
Maybe.
__________________
-- Well, I'm back.
SamwiseGamgee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 02:07 PM   #7
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Auspicious Wraith
 
Eomer of the Rohirrim's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 4,859
Eomer of the Rohirrim is a guest at the Prancing Pony.Eomer of the Rohirrim is a guest at the Prancing Pony.
Boots

Do you thereby imply Samwise that the audience was not supposed to twist their imaginations in such ways, and that this was actually a mistake from the filmmakers?

__________________
Los Ingobernables de Harlond
Eomer of the Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 02:57 PM   #8
Assasin
Wight
 
Assasin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a desert.
Posts: 142
Assasin has just left Hobbiton.
Has anyone looked at the commentary in the extras? It's hilarious! I laughed so hard! Dominic and Billy are especially funny.
__________________
Death is as light as a feather, duty is as heavy as a mountain.
Assasin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:48 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.