**The Return of the King Extended Edition** - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kitanna · 02-03-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

When the Black Gate opened, all we could see was the Mouth of Sauron riding out, yes? But then, seconds later, it opens again and this absolutely gargantuan army comes pouring out. Where were they hiding?

The more important question in my mind is how come in TTT it takes two trolls to open the gate, but in ROTK it opens by itself? Is Sauron using the Dark side of the Force to open it from across Mordor?
Speaking of the Force you can see Gandalf using the Force on Aragorn. That part where you hear the Eye going "Aragorn..." the camera cuts to Gandalf for a second and you can see him wave his hand like he's using the Force.

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-03-2005, 06:43 PM

Ooh! Kill Bill II, too (whatever).

Hmm. Let's see. If PJ likes horses LOTR fans could have put in a call to
Michael Corleone to have Luca Brasi have a chat with PJ. Hey, PJ ain't no bandleader.

I've only put on the movie and cast commentary, so far, to ROTK EE, but this
is rather typical of PJ and friends, on the one hand good special effects and
casting, on the other a number of gratuitous, and frequently pointless,
changes to LOTR. Arg!

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-04-2005, 11:03 AM

Maybe the Trolls opening the Gate in RotK were wearing Rings of Power, and were thus invisible.

Maybe the army were all on an exceedingly large platform which ascended after the Mouth had went through.

SamwiseGamgee · 02-09-2005, 02:02 PM

Maybe tiny weasels bribed gandalf to dance like a ballerina in the halls of Minas Tirith.
Maybe.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-09-2005, 02:07 PM

Do you thereby imply Samwise that the audience was not supposed to twist their imaginations in such ways, and that this was actually a mistake from the filmmakers?

Assasin · 02-09-2005, 02:57 PM

Has anyone looked at the commentary in the extras? It's hilarious! I laughed so hard! Dominic and Billy are especially funny.

SamwiseGamgee · 02-10-2005, 07:21 AM

Personally, I think it was a 'deliberate mistake'. How so? Certain members of the crew and film making staff had no idea about this occurring, but unfortunately there was a large representation from the SDWS (Sympathisers with Dancing Weasels Society) on the team. They were probably paid off by head honchos in the SWDS to doctor their film.
Maybe.

02-03-2005, 06:43 PM	#2
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Ooh! Kill Bill II, too (whatever). Hmm. Let's see. If PJ likes horses LOTR fans could have put in a call to Michael Corleone to have Luca Brasi have a chat with PJ. Hey, PJ ain't no bandleader. I've only put on the movie and cast commentary, so far, to ROTK EE, but this is rather typical of PJ and friends, on the one hand good special effects and casting, on the other a number of gratuitous, and frequently pointless, changes to LOTR. Arg! __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-04-2005, 11:03 AM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Maybe the Trolls opening the Gate in RotK were wearing Rings of Power, and were thus invisible. Maybe the army were all on an exceedingly large platform which ascended after the Mouth had went through. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

02-09-2005, 02:02 PM	#4
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	Maybe tiny weasels bribed gandalf to dance like a ballerina in the halls of Minas Tirith. Maybe. __________________ -- Well, I'm back.

02-09-2005, 02:07 PM	#5
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Do you thereby imply Samwise that the audience was not supposed to twist their imaginations in such ways, and that this was actually a mistake from the filmmakers? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

02-09-2005, 02:57 PM	#6
Assasin Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a desert. Posts: 142	Has anyone looked at the commentary in the extras? It's hilarious! I laughed so hard! Dominic and Billy are especially funny. __________________ Death is as light as a feather, duty is as heavy as a mountain.

02-10-2005, 07:21 AM	#7
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	Personally, I think it was a 'deliberate mistake'. How so? Certain members of the crew and film making staff had no idea about this occurring, but unfortunately there was a large representation from the SDWS (Sympathisers with Dancing Weasels Society) on the team. They were probably paid off by head honchos in the SWDS to doctor their film. Maybe. __________________ -- Well, I'm back.