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02-04-2005, 12:37 PM
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Pilgrim Soul
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I am fairly certain that elvish laws and customs would not permit divorce but if we let that slide .... yes it is a common tale ..... boy meets girl and after a few millenia when the kids have gone they realise they have nothing in common anymore and want to do their own thing ......
Only trouble would be ... who deserted whom? By her departure Galadriel might have been interpreted as leaving him not only the marital home but the marital kingdom which would be a more than generous settlement - even if she did keep the jewellery..... I mean it is not Gally's fault that he chooses to over extend his resources by taking on a second new realm and ends up ligging off his grandsons at Rivendell. Furthermore an adulterous relationship with a dwarf would surely (to elvish minds) denote clinical insanity and I am not sure if you are allowed to divorce a lunatic .... (NB The Downer Legal Beagles should not interpret this as instruction and attempt to charge me for their opinions.....  ) but admittedly there is an outside chance that the legal system my have moved on since the days of Charlotte Bronte ...........
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02-04-2005, 12:54 PM
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With Thranduil ...  Er, I think I'd better stop before I go any further with this ...
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02-04-2005, 01:02 PM
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Pilgrim Soul
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Eru forbid that I should turn into and estate agent but I think the mallorn would give a certain cachet if a tasteful development were suitably marketed..... Thranduil and Celeborn were related and did maintain separate establishments.. not sure if that actually improves the situation ..... and I just had a very bad thought about Galadriel and Gimli 
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02-04-2005, 02:06 PM
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Auspicious Wraith
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Um....Mithalwen, you do realise that this whole thread is just an invitation to entertain bad thoughts about Gimli and Galadriel, right?
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02-04-2005, 02:30 PM
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Pilgrim Soul
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lest we go waaay off topic...
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Another eventually: Eventually, the thread developed into sort of trousers, one leg coming down chivalry/courtship/jeaulosy, and, another, not totally unrelated (as is the wont of any trousers worth wearing) down to 'whether Gimli went West' So, left leg re: Quote:
) (or however you spell the word), let me inform you that such a type can't stand outright flattery, while, at the same time considering indifference towards their person as a personal insult (we are talking extreme cases here, but patalogies are illustrious, after all). But above all, they value cleverness, and, surprisingly enough, sincerity (it's a hard potion to mix up, cleverness and honesty, together). Gimli is showing both at the spot (sarcastic side note: why did they make a clown of him in the movie, I can't get), without leaving boundaries set by the chivalrous code of conduct. He's a real brick there, managing to be humble at the same timeI suppose, that's why, as opposed to arrogant Fëanor (you know the type, I'm giving you a favour asking for your hair, you'd be really famous, people will say, hey, see that gel, she's the one Fëanor himself made a casket for a single hair of!, Gimli has his wish granted. Right leg re: Gimli in Valinor? I believe it it must have been poetic exaggeration. Romance oft has one. Lots of one. Really going to really see the really married object of your chivalrous admiration in real life is not a wise move. Better have an item given by the beloved to revive memory, hence, vivid (even if it is just 'a cold picture' for dwarves) memory and a story to tell your grandchildren (if any) by the fire-side on a cold winter night cheers
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02-05-2005, 03:44 AM
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Wise words, certainly, HI, but remember what Gimli himself said?
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Esty (who definitely sympathizes with the Dwarf's point-of-view here...)
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