The Lost Road, the Athrabeth, and the Space Trilogy: Tolkien and Lewis - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Neurion · 02-11-2005, 04:02 PM

Interesting. I'd been wondering about the references to "Numenore".

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-11-2005, 04:56 PM

You might be interested in this past discussion of one of those similarities: Maiar=Eldila? Enjoy!

Findegil · 02-12-2005, 01:44 PM

The conversation between Tolkien and Lewis with the result that Lewis began to write space travel-storys and Tolkien time-travel storys (The Notion-Club Pappers was a second attemp on the same motive as the Lost Road) is recorded by Tolkien in his Letters. Tolkien does also say that Lewis heard the name Numenore and Eldalie in a reading by Tolkien to the Inclings and missspelt them (especially Numenore).

Respectfully
Findegil

Nuranar · 02-14-2005, 02:39 PM

It's also referenced in the preface to Of This and Other Worlds, although that's not a primary source. Nevertheless, it's a fascinating collection of Lewis essays and, incidentally, my source for the two Lewis quotes that have debuted on my blog recently.

I'll try to edit in more particular information, and possibly more thought, when I get out of the comp sci lab and back home.

02-11-2005, 04:02 PM	#1
Neurion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs Posts: 258	Interesting. I'd been wondering about the references to "Numenore". __________________ ____________________________________ "And a cold voice rang forth from the blade. Yea, I will drink thy blood, that I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly."

02-11-2005, 04:56 PM	#2
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	You might be interested in this past discussion of one of those similarities: Maiar=Eldila? Enjoy! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-14-2005, 02:39 PM	#4
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	It's also referenced in the preface to Of This and Other Worlds, although that's not a primary source. Nevertheless, it's a fascinating collection of Lewis essays and, incidentally, my source for the two Lewis quotes that have debuted on my blog recently. I'll try to edit in more particular information, and possibly more thought, when I get out of the comp sci lab and back home. __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

02-12-2005, 01:44 PM	#3
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	The conversation between Tolkien and Lewis with the result that Lewis began to write space travel-storys and Tolkien time-travel storys (The Notion-Club Pappers was a second attemp on the same motive as the Lost Road) is recorded by Tolkien in his Letters. Tolkien does also say that Lewis heard the name Numenore and Eldalie in a reading by Tolkien to the Inclings and missspelt them (especially Numenore). Respectfully Findegil