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Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-28-2005, 03:16 PM

Gandalf did touch the Ring. (or is this a movie memory?) In Bag End. But I discounted him in favor of Galadriel because part of why Galadriel came to ME in the first place was that she was looking for lands of her own. Gandalf was sent to aid and counsel. So even though he did have a mental battle to not take the Ring, it wasn't as strong as Galadriel's, since the Ring would have given her a whole slew of power to conquer Sauron, expand Lothlorien, and all that good stuff. Elrond had already shown he was willing to see it destroyed when he counselled Isildur to "throw it into the fire!!!". So... *there*.

But since Faramir says no to mental... I'm sticking with my Turin/Faramir.

Fea

the phantom · 02-28-2005, 03:23 PM

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since the Ring would have given her a whole slew of power to conquer Sauron, expand Lothlorien, and all that good stuff

And the Ring also would've given Elrond a "whole slew of power to conquer Sauron", expand his realm, and "all that good stuff".

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Elrond had already shown he was willing to see it destroyed

Indeed, and his apparant lack of a mentle struggle with the Ring might be a sign of a greater mind.

Beleg Cuthalion · 02-28-2005, 04:56 PM

I'd say the best warrior was Tuor, bar none.

Who else among all the Children of Illuvatar has slain a Balrog and lived to tell the tale, let alone five in one day, and a dragon to boot.

BTW, how does the prospect of Balrogs riding dragons into battle strike you?

Rumil · 02-28-2005, 05:48 PM

I'm for Fingolfin (fave elf),

but,

what about Earendil? Surely downing Ancalagon the Black, who appears to have worried even Eonwe must be quite a feat. (Even with Vingilot and a Silmaril).

Beleg Cuthalion · 02-28-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumil

I'm for Fingolfin (fave elf),

but,

what about Earendil? Surely downing Ancalagon the Black, who appears to have worried even Eonwe must be quite a feat. (Even with Vingilot and a Silmaril).

You forgot he had eagles with 150'+ wingspans flying support for him.

Faramir · 02-28-2005, 07:37 PM

lets say we throw in mental "combat" who would be the top five? my guess would be:

1.Sauron
2.Galadriel
3.Elrond
4.Gandalf
5.Saruman

TPotSS · 02-28-2005, 11:53 PM

No way would Gandalf be under Galadriel and Elrond.

And about Tuor killing Balrogs- the ones he killed were watered down versions of what most people think of when they see "Balrog" (they think of LOTR Durin's Bane). Back when Tolkien wrote that about Tuor there were bunches of Balrogs. Later he made them fewer and more powerful.

02-28-2005, 03:16 PM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Gandalf did touch the Ring. (or is this a movie memory?) In Bag End. But I discounted him in favor of Galadriel because part of why Galadriel came to ME in the first place was that she was looking for lands of her own. Gandalf was sent to aid and counsel. So even though he did have a mental battle to not take the Ring, it wasn't as strong as Galadriel's, since the Ring would have given her a whole slew of power to conquer Sauron, expand Lothlorien, and all that good stuff. Elrond had already shown he was willing to see it destroyed when he counselled Isildur to "throw it into the fire!!!". So... there. But since Faramir says no to mental... I'm sticking with my Turin/Faramir. Fea __________________ peace

02-28-2005, 04:56 PM	#3
Beleg Cuthalion Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hominum que contente mundique huius et cupido Posts: 181	I'd say the best warrior was Tuor, bar none. Who else among all the Children of Illuvatar has slain a Balrog and lived to tell the tale, let alone five in one day, and a dragon to boot. BTW, how does the prospect of Balrogs riding dragons into battle strike you? __________________ War is not the answer, War is the question and the answer is yes Quis ut Deus

02-28-2005, 05:48 PM	#4
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	I'm for Fingolfin (fave elf), but, what about Earendil? Surely downing Ancalagon the Black, who appears to have worried even Eonwe must be quite a feat. (Even with Vingilot and a Silmaril). __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

02-28-2005, 11:53 PM	#7
TPotSS Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the captain's chair Posts: 42	No way would Gandalf be under Galadriel and Elrond. And about Tuor killing Balrogs- the ones he killed were watered down versions of what most people think of when they see "Balrog" (they think of LOTR Durin's Bane). Back when Tolkien wrote that about Tuor there were bunches of Balrogs. Later he made them fewer and more powerful. __________________ You can't be a great painter. You only have one ear.

02-28-2005, 07:37 PM	#6
Faramir Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In the Forest of Ithilien. Posts: 43	lets say we throw in mental "combat" who would be the top five? my guess would be: 1.Sauron 2.Galadriel 3.Elrond 4.Gandalf 5.Saruman