Shifty eyes - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Encaitare · 03-01-2005, 03:11 PM

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Depending on the light and what color shirt I have on, they are steel-grey, or sea-green, or sky-blue.

Ah, this might make sense in this case, save for the small catch: Mary-Sues' eyes, all too often, change from silver to purple to jade to some other utterly related color...

mark12_30 · 03-02-2005, 09:09 AM

If you watch the appendices in the EE, where they show the Lorien scene in Fellowship, and how they turned it from day to night digitally, you'll see Elijah Wood's eyes turn (almost) purple. I had to laugh. Everyone accused him of having his "eyes digitally enhanced" and he laughingly denied it-- but (in this case) it was true; only it was all done after the fact by the editors turning day to night.

There's an explaination, of course. When (in RL) you turn the lights out, your pupils dilate and only the outer rim of your iris is still showing. So your eyes are only showing the very outer rim of color. The outer rim of iris is where the color tends to be darkest (if you have gradations of color in your eyes.) But when a picture (with irises not dilated) is shifted to darker blues, to make it look like night-time, then all that lighter colored iris is still showing-- and you've just turned it much bluer, too.

Most un-natural.

So does that make Elijah a Mary-Sue???

Poor kid.

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Nuranar · 03-02-2005, 09:26 AM

The idea of eye color changing under the force of strong emotion is by no means unique to the Mary-Sues - nor to the realm of fantasy, either. Just see Agatha Christie - classic detective fiction! - and her most famous detective, Hercule Poirot. When he has an illumination (as opposed to a 'little idea'

) she writes that his eyes shine green. I'd post an example, but I have none of my books with me at present. I can't remember, however, if she specifies his ordinary eye color.

Nuranar,
whose eyes are a most disappointingly-uniform deep blue (but not 'Lijah blue, thank you! deeper than that

)

Encaitare · 03-02-2005, 05:15 PM

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she writes that his eyes shine green.

Rather like Treebeard, the blatant Mary-Sue that he is!

Nimrodel_9 · 03-02-2005, 05:21 PM

Gandalf’s eyes flashed. 'It will be my turn to get angry soon,’ he said. 'If you say that again, I shall. Then you will see Gandalf the Grey uncloaked.’ Uh oh.

In the movies they seem to change colors, but that has nothing to do with Tolkien.

03-02-2005, 09:09 AM	#2
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	If you watch the appendices in the EE, where they show the Lorien scene in Fellowship, and how they turned it from day to night digitally, you'll see Elijah Wood's eyes turn (almost) purple. I had to laugh. Everyone accused him of having his "eyes digitally enhanced" and he laughingly denied it-- but (in this case) it was true; only it was all done after the fact by the editors turning day to night. There's an explaination, of course. When (in RL) you turn the lights out, your pupils dilate and only the outer rim of your iris is still showing. So your eyes are only showing the very outer rim of color. The outer rim of iris is where the color tends to be darkest (if you have gradations of color in your eyes.) But when a picture (with irises not dilated) is shifted to darker blues, to make it look like night-time, then all that lighter colored iris is still showing-- and you've just turned it much bluer, too. Most un-natural. So does that make Elijah a Mary-Sue??? Poor kid. eye-color more on eye-color __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 03-02-2005 at 09:19 AM.

03-02-2005, 09:26 AM	#3
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	The idea of eye color changing under the force of strong emotion is by no means unique to the Mary-Sues - nor to the realm of fantasy, either. Just see Agatha Christie - classic detective fiction! - and her most famous detective, Hercule Poirot. When he has an illumination (as opposed to a 'little idea' ) she writes that his eyes shine green. I'd post an example, but I have none of my books with me at present. I can't remember, however, if she specifies his ordinary eye color. Nuranar, whose eyes are a most disappointingly-uniform deep blue (but not 'Lijah blue, thank you! deeper than that ) __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

03-02-2005, 05:21 PM	#5
Nimrodel_9 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 734	Gandalf’s eyes flashed. 'It will be my turn to get angry soon,’ he said. 'If you say that again, I shall. Then you will see Gandalf the Grey uncloaked.’ Uh oh. In the movies they seem to change colors, but that has nothing to do with Tolkien. __________________ .:A friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart:.