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Old 03-23-2005, 08:08 PM   #9
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In Gondor there was Gandalf, but he was no Aragorn. The people had lived to long in fear and no one to lead them. No matter what you say Gandalf was no king, he was no Aragorn. Even if he did Gondor still didnt have Denethor behind it, and too have someone come in and try to do good without the help of the ruler just doesnt work as well as if you have both working for good as Aragor and Theoden did.
i forgot about Gandalf uniting the peoples of ME. My point was that the people didnt have a leader that they knew, and were really comfortable with. If Aragorn had arrived before the battle and became king and established an ansolute power and given the people a sence of that leadersip, they might have been more willing to fight. Even though Gandalf was a famous wizard (Istari) and everyone knew who he was, they didnt know him. He came in, out of no where and tried to take over. While he was better than Denethor, i just dont think that they would have just left Denethor and followed Gandalf, especially when he was so openly opposing Gandalf.


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Gandalf was as much as a capable leader as Aragorn, if not better.
This is true, but every leader has to have time to gain the trust and respect of the followers. If someone came into your work, school, or what ever and just took over, they might be the better leader, but only time will let you see that. And as we know time was not on Gondor's side.
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