Prisoner of Númenor Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

TomBrady12 · 04-13-2005, 07:17 PM

I have posted what maybe considered a controversial addition to the story. As always i am am open to change.

TB12

Himaran · 04-13-2005, 09:08 PM

TB12:

Abarzadan is thoroughly humbled.

I do feel, however, that there is a problem with your approach. Abarzadan spoke with authority in my post, but in your post Marsillion states that he is a mere slave a bit after Abarzadan claimed to be the leader of the party. Despite the strength of Marsillion's position, I find it unlikely that the King's men would swallow the contradiction without question. Seeing that we had to find a non-violent ending to the episode, I do think that your solution was a good one. Also, it leaves room for future conflict between Abarzadan and Marsillion, which seems to be a prevalent theme already.

What do the rest of you think?

Meneltarmacil · 04-15-2005, 06:31 PM

Well, I've posted. Sorry if the use of a sword violates any rules, but I checked my bio and Thoronmir really doesn't seem to have any other close-range weapons on him. (He usually keeps it hidden in his cloak, so it's not obvious to everyone else.)

Of course, I guess I could edit my bio and give myself a dagger or something if need be...

Regin Hardhammer · 04-15-2005, 06:33 PM

I filled in my save.

Meneltarmacil: Should you have started the fight if the situation was supposed to be non-violent?

Just a concern.

- Regin

Meneltarmacil · 04-15-2005, 06:36 PM

Sorry if I made things too complicated. I am not exactly sure what's supposed to happen, so if you'd like me to make any changes I'll do so.

However, I was told to make it violent...

littlemanpoet · 04-15-2005, 09:48 PM

Meneltarmacil, your character's not supposed to have a sword. Are you willing for your character to experience an early exit from the rp? After all, there were at least twice as many recommendations against violence as for. So the violence was really your choice. If I play this out according to my best understanding of Númenór, a half dozen of the King's Men will loose arrows and kill Thoronmir on the spot, since he has initiated the hostilities, attempting murder of a King's Man, something the Faithful would deplore regardless of the persecution. Part of what makes them the Faithful is the moral high ground. So the upshot is that violence is frankly out of character for anybody purporting to be a member of the Faithful. Especially the initiation of violence, unnecessarily; and it cannot be deemed necessary as long as Marsillion's ploy has not proved a failure.

Meneltarmacil · 04-16-2005, 07:18 AM

OK, I deleted my post from the game. Sorry to mess everything up.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 04-16-2005, 12:04 PM

Menel- LMP is right about what would happen to Thoronmir if he whipped out his sword like that. I also think it would be better if you didn't claim to be an unrelated traveler, since we've already got two opposing stories going on. I'm sorry you had to delete your post, and I also think it's kind of interesting that you had the soldiers recognize Thoronmir. That could be a really interesting aspect, particularly as we get to Armenelos where more people would have known Thoronmir. However, I doubt he'd be more than vaguely familiar to them, as these are low-ranking sorts of soldiers and Thoronmir was a pretty high-ranking kind of guy once upon a time.

Don't worry though, I suspect we'll have violence (at least some) in Armenelos.

Everybody else- I pulled my save for Kathaani. I know I'm supposed to be coming up with all the good ideas as game owner

, but I just can't think what to do with her in this situation. It seems like she would foul things up simply by being a woman present in this situation. If somebody (LMP?) could mention her vaguely in their next post and give me a hint on how others are going to handle her presence (like the soldiers?) it would help me immensely.

Also- I haven't seen Samsmyhero in weeks. It seems she's been missing from the downs entirely since 3-18?

Any suggestions what to do with Tiru in her absence? Shall we just carry him, or shall we sacrifice him early?

Sophia

*cough* oh, and Menel? I love your sig.

04-13-2005, 09:08 PM	#2
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	TB12: Abarzadan is thoroughly humbled. I do feel, however, that there is a problem with your approach. Abarzadan spoke with authority in my post, but in your post Marsillion states that he is a mere slave a bit after Abarzadan claimed to be the leader of the party. Despite the strength of Marsillion's position, I find it unlikely that the King's men would swallow the contradiction without question. Seeing that we had to find a non-violent ending to the episode, I do think that your solution was a good one. Also, it leaves room for future conflict between Abarzadan and Marsillion, which seems to be a prevalent theme already. What do the rest of you think? Last edited by Himaran; 04-13-2005 at 09:13 PM.

04-15-2005, 06:31 PM	#3
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Well, I've posted. Sorry if the use of a sword violates any rules, but I checked my bio and Thoronmir really doesn't seem to have any other close-range weapons on him. (He usually keeps it hidden in his cloak, so it's not obvious to everyone else.) Of course, I guess I could edit my bio and give myself a dagger or something if need be... __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

04-15-2005, 06:33 PM	#4
Regin Hardhammer Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tumunzahar/Nogrod Posts: 364	I filled in my save. Meneltarmacil: Should you have started the fight if the situation was supposed to be non-violent? Just a concern. - Regin __________________ For once I myself saw with my own eyes the Sibyl at Cumae hanging in a bottle, and when the boys said to her: 'Sibyl, what do you want?' she replied, 'I want to die.'"

04-15-2005, 06:36 PM	#5
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Sorry if I made things too complicated. I am not exactly sure what's supposed to happen, so if you'd like me to make any changes I'll do so. However, I was told to make it violent... __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

04-15-2005, 09:48 PM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Meneltarmacil, your character's not supposed to have a sword. Are you willing for your character to experience an early exit from the rp? After all, there were at least twice as many recommendations against violence as for. So the violence was really your choice. If I play this out according to my best understanding of Númenór, a half dozen of the King's Men will loose arrows and kill Thoronmir on the spot, since he has initiated the hostilities, attempting murder of a King's Man, something the Faithful would deplore regardless of the persecution. Part of what makes them the Faithful is the moral high ground. So the upshot is that violence is frankly out of character for anybody purporting to be a member of the Faithful. Especially the initiation of violence, unnecessarily; and it cannot be deemed necessary as long as Marsillion's ploy has not proved a failure. Last edited by littlemanpoet; 04-15-2005 at 09:51 PM.

04-13-2005, 07:17 PM	#1
TomBrady12 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 69	I have posted what maybe considered a controversial addition to the story. As always i am am open to change. TB12

04-16-2005, 07:18 AM	#7
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	OK, I deleted my post from the game. Sorry to mess everything up. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

04-16-2005, 12:04 PM	#8
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Menel- LMP is right about what would happen to Thoronmir if he whipped out his sword like that. I also think it would be better if you didn't claim to be an unrelated traveler, since we've already got two opposing stories going on. I'm sorry you had to delete your post, and I also think it's kind of interesting that you had the soldiers recognize Thoronmir. That could be a really interesting aspect, particularly as we get to Armenelos where more people would have known Thoronmir. However, I doubt he'd be more than vaguely familiar to them, as these are low-ranking sorts of soldiers and Thoronmir was a pretty high-ranking kind of guy once upon a time. Don't worry though, I suspect we'll have violence (at least some) in Armenelos. Everybody else- I pulled my save for Kathaani. I know I'm supposed to be coming up with all the good ideas as game owner , but I just can't think what to do with her in this situation. It seems like she would foul things up simply by being a woman present in this situation. If somebody (LMP?) could mention her vaguely in their next post and give me a hint on how others are going to handle her presence (like the soldiers?) it would help me immensely. Also- I haven't seen Samsmyhero in weeks. It seems she's been missing from the downs entirely since 3-18? Any suggestions what to do with Tiru in her absence? Shall we just carry him, or shall we sacrifice him early? Sophia cough oh, and Menel? I love your sig. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!