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Old 04-17-2005, 03:19 PM   #6
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Pelendur and Arvedui the comparison, perchance?

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"Girion was lord of Dale, not king of Esgaroth," he [the master] said. "In Lake-town we have always elected masters from among the old and wise, and have not endured the rule mere fighting men. Let 'King Bard' go back to his own kingdom- Dale is now freed by his valour, and nothing hinders his return. And any that wish can go with him, if they prefer the cold stones under the shadow of the Mountain to the green shores of the lake. The wise will stay here and hope to rebuild our town, and enjoy again in time its peace and riches."
-"Fire and Water", from The Hobbit

You, I got to think that there is a LOT of similarity between what the Master says here and Pelendur's reply to Arvedui. After all, Arvedui's claim, as Heir of Isildur, was rejected by Pelendur, who basically said that Isildur had forfeited his claim to the throne of Gondor. (Which is why Aragorn stresses his position as the Heir of Elendil. If Arvedui had been rejected, then why should his Heir have a better claim?)

Let's rewrite this quote from The Hobbit, as if it were Pelendur speaking to Arvedui, and not the Master to Bard:

"Isildur was King of Arnor, and forfeited the Kingship of Gondor," he [Pelendur] said. "In Gondor we have always been ruled by Kings from the line of Anarion, and have not endured the claims of any others. Let 'King Arvedui' go back to his own kingdom- Arthedain is still free by his valour, and nothing hinders his rule. And any that wish can go with him, if they prefer the cold stones under the shadow of the Angmar to the green fields of the South. The wise will stay here and hope to rebuild our kingdom, and enjoy again in time its peace and riches."

A parallel perchance?
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