Who does Galadriel resemble? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Tinuviel of Denton · 05-06-2005, 08:38 AM

Slightly more feminine indeed.

I'm crippled by having none of my books with me--they're all at home, and I'm at college--and by the fact that I've never read HoME, but isn't there somewhere a story/chapter/something that mentions that Galadriel was, at one point, nicknamed Nerwen (Man-maiden, or something like that) because she went to battle with the lords of the Noldor?

Or is my mind playing tricks on me, and I'm just making up very strange things.

Fallenstar · 05-06-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinuviel of Denton

Slightly more feminine indeed.

I'm crippled by having none of my books with me--they're all at home, and I'm at college--and by the fact that I've never read HoME, but isn't there somewhere a story/chapter/something that mentions that Galadriel was, at one point, nicknamed Nerwen (Man-maiden, or something like that) because she went to battle with the lords of the Noldor?

Or is my mind playing tricks on me, and I'm just making up very strange things.

I just read that part in the UT, Galadriel is her Sindarian name which Celeborn gave to her. Her "real name" is indeed Nerwen.

Anguirel · 05-07-2005, 01:18 AM

Really? I thought that was her mother-name, her real name being Artanis...which fits better with the other female of her clan, Aredhel...

Encaitare · 05-07-2005, 01:06 PM

That depends on what you want to consider her "real name". The father-name was given at birth, and the mother-name later. Since by the time the mother-name is given, the young Elf in question has developed an individual personality, and the mother-age is probably a better or more accurate description of the person.

Eruanna · 05-08-2005, 01:55 PM

Historically, Galadriel has always reminded me of Boudicca. She was warrior queen of a tribe of Ancient Britons and led a revolt against the Romans. Coincidentally, her daughter was captured, molested and murdered by the Roman invaders. Similarities with Celebrian?

THE Ka · 05-08-2005, 03:01 PM

Oh, wonderful topic if I may say!

Anyways, Galadriel has always reminded me of the meaning of the greek name 'Medusa', which means "sovereign female wisdom", in that Galadriel seemed to depend on herself for the best answer and was willing to help those who needed it. Also, because it seems that even though she is married to Celeborn, she keeps more will power in her control than other similar figures in Middle Earth.

In her more aggresive aspect, Galadriel seems like Macha, one of the three celtic goddesses called the Morrigana. There are many different tales about Macha, but in a summary she was a seer, warrioress, and queen. She also was known as the Tuatha De Danann's battle goddess, and on the other hand was known to bring good fortune and prosperity.

~ Ka

05-07-2005, 01:18 AM	#3
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Really? I thought that was her mother-name, her real name being Artanis...which fits better with the other female of her clan, Aredhel... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

05-08-2005, 01:55 PM	#5
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	Historically, Galadriel has always reminded me of Boudicca. She was warrior queen of a tribe of Ancient Britons and led a revolt against the Romans. Coincidentally, her daughter was captured, molested and murdered by the Roman invaders. Similarities with Celebrian? __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

05-08-2005, 03:01 PM	#6
THE Ka Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: As with the flygja Posts: 1,403	Oh, wonderful topic if I may say! Anyways, Galadriel has always reminded me of the meaning of the greek name 'Medusa', which means "sovereign female wisdom", in that Galadriel seemed to depend on herself for the best answer and was willing to help those who needed it. Also, because it seems that even though she is married to Celeborn, she keeps more will power in her control than other similar figures in Middle Earth. In her more aggresive aspect, Galadriel seems like Macha, one of the three celtic goddesses called the Morrigana. There are many different tales about Macha, but in a summary she was a seer, warrioress, and queen. She also was known as the Tuatha De Danann's battle goddess, and on the other hand was known to bring good fortune and prosperity. ~ Ka __________________ Vinur, vinur skilur tú meg? Veitst tú ongan loyniveg? Hevur tú reikað líka sum eg, í endaleysu tokuni?

05-06-2005, 08:38 AM	#1
Tinuviel of Denton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amid the hills and dales of the Shire... or not. Posts: 579	Slightly more feminine indeed. I'm crippled by having none of my books with me--they're all at home, and I'm at college--and by the fact that I've never read HoME, but isn't there somewhere a story/chapter/something that mentions that Galadriel was, at one point, nicknamed Nerwen (Man-maiden, or something like that) because she went to battle with the lords of the Noldor? Or is my mind playing tricks on me, and I'm just making up very strange things.

05-07-2005, 01:06 PM	#4
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	That depends on what you want to consider her "real name". The father-name was given at birth, and the mother-name later. Since by the time the mother-name is given, the young Elf in question has developed an individual personality, and the mother-age is probably a better or more accurate description of the person.