If they still had Gandalf... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Essex · 05-08-2005, 02:50 AM

if Gandalf had not fallen, the 'World of Men' would have been pretty much obliterated.

I put it to you that Gandalf would have definately followed Frodo and Sam, and that the fellowship would have beaten the forces of orcs at Parth Galen.

Therefore:

No merry and pippin starting the Ent's movement towards the destruction of Isengard.

No healing of Theoden.

No mustering of Erkendrand's forces and the Huorns at Helm's Deep

Therefoer Total annihilation of Rohan people

Therefore no Ride of the Rohirrim at Pellenor Fields

Therefore no defeat of the Witch King by Eoywn / Merry

No trip by Aragorn to the Coast to get more troops

Therefore probable wipe out of Gondor's forces

No argument regarding the Witch King's demise between the two orc hunters who would have probably tracked the hobbits down.

Fight between the orcs and the hobbits (and Gandalf)

Now, tall order here, but the orcs possibly could have won this and got the Ring, and therefore END OF STORY.

But if the hobnits and gandalf did survive, then there wouldn't be much for Frodo, Sam and Gandalf to come back to.......if they could make it back through the lava pits once Mount Doom exploded after the Ring was thrown in. No Eagles around Mordor to give them a lift.......

05-08-2005, 02:50 AM	#8
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	if Gandalf had not fallen, the 'World of Men' would have been pretty much obliterated. I put it to you that Gandalf would have definately followed Frodo and Sam, and that the fellowship would have beaten the forces of orcs at Parth Galen. Therefore: No merry and pippin starting the Ent's movement towards the destruction of Isengard. No healing of Theoden. No mustering of Erkendrand's forces and the Huorns at Helm's Deep Therefoer Total annihilation of Rohan people Therefore no Ride of the Rohirrim at Pellenor Fields Therefore no defeat of the Witch King by Eoywn / Merry No trip by Aragorn to the Coast to get more troops Therefore probable wipe out of Gondor's forces No argument regarding the Witch King's demise between the two orc hunters who would have probably tracked the hobbits down. Fight between the orcs and the hobbits (and Gandalf) Now, tall order here, but the orcs possibly could have won this and got the Ring, and therefore END OF STORY. But if the hobnits and gandalf did survive, then there wouldn't be much for Frodo, Sam and Gandalf to come back to.......if they could make it back through the lava pits once Mount Doom exploded after the Ring was thrown in. No Eagles around Mordor to give them a lift.......