Gollum Trivia - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mormegil · 05-08-2005, 09:21 PM

Do you mean the way in which Gollum was treated better in captivity among Thranduil's people than Gloin was?

Holbytlass · 05-09-2005, 03:51 AM

Exactly, your go...

mormegil · 05-09-2005, 08:22 AM

At one point Frodo prophesied about Gollum. When was it and what did he prophesy?

Firefoot · 05-09-2005, 01:42 PM

In the chapter "The Black Gate is Closed," after Gollum says "Give it back to Sméagol," Frodo says, "Do not say that again! Do not let that thought grow in you! You will never get it back. But the desire of it may betray you to a bitter end. You will never get it back. In the last need, Sméagol, I should put on the Precious; and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to command you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or to cast yourself into the fire. And such would be my command. So have a care, Sméagol!"

I don't know whether the whole of it was necessary or not, but it's a cool passage anyway.

mormegil · 05-09-2005, 02:15 PM

Nope but a great guess. I had something else in mind. More direct and something that actually happened. Frodo didn't put on the ring and command Gollum to jump.

Firefoot · 05-09-2005, 02:24 PM

No, but the desire did betray Gollum to a bitter end...

Lessee, how about this:

Right after Gollum had been caught, Frodo says, "Would you commit your promise to that, Sméagol? It will hold you. But it is more treacherous that hou are. It may twist your words. Beware!"

mormegil · 05-09-2005, 02:27 PM

No it's later in the books

05-08-2005, 09:21 PM	#1
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Do you mean the way in which Gollum was treated better in captivity among Thranduil's people than Gloin was? __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-09-2005, 03:51 AM	#2
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	Exactly, your go... __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

05-09-2005, 08:22 AM	#3
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	At one point Frodo prophesied about Gollum. When was it and what did he prophesy? __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-09-2005, 02:15 PM	#5
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Nope but a great guess. I had something else in mind. More direct and something that actually happened. Frodo didn't put on the ring and command Gollum to jump. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-09-2005, 02:27 PM	#7
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	No it's later in the books __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-09-2005, 01:42 PM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	In the chapter "The Black Gate is Closed," after Gollum says "Give it back to Sméagol," Frodo says, "Do not say that again! Do not let that thought grow in you! You will never get it back. But the desire of it may betray you to a bitter end. You will never get it back. In the last need, Sméagol, I should put on the Precious; and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to command you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or to cast yourself into the fire. And such would be my command. So have a care, Sméagol!" I don't know whether the whole of it was necessary or not, but it's a cool passage anyway.

05-09-2005, 02:24 PM	#6
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	No, but the desire did betray Gollum to a bitter end... Lessee, how about this: Right after Gollum had been caught, Frodo says, "Would you commit your promise to that, Sméagol? It will hold you. But it is more treacherous that hou are. It may twist your words. Beware!"