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Old 05-18-2005, 09:20 AM   #1
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Staring contest? Yeah... that sounds about right. Actually, I had an RL engagement that couldn't be avoided. If anyone cares, I won best in show.

I'm really bothered now that the phantom is gone. I thought for sure that Mithalwen was a shoo-in. Now, my overly-tired mind is saying to agree with whatever our fair lady says, and then screaming "Wait! She must have done it!" But since I'm so exhausted, I don't even know any more.

But, I'm having a thought here. I'll explain it in the morning, maybe (I will if I can scrounge up any free time). In the mean time, ++Bilbo Baggins. Sorry Bilbo, I'll explain after I log some beauty sleep.
Okay, remember when I said that ^ ? I was almost asleep. But now I'm awake (mostly...) and my thought still seems pretty decent, even though it's really cold and heartless.

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These are these people still alive. I know that I'm innocent, and I'm pretty sure that Mithalwen is innocent. That means that whoever I pick, I have a 1:3 chance of being right about. Since I'm really suspicious of bilbo right now, that just meant that he fit nicely into that little one slot.

And just think... if we kill bilbo and I'm wrong, then tonight the werewolf will kill another innocent. That narrows the list of Alive down to three people. If I'm still alive, and Mith is still alive, that pretty much means I'll know who the werewolf is.

Mind you, this whole cold and heartless thought process works... but it would complicate it a lot if Mith turns out to be the baddie. Or if, you know, I die. Or Mith dies. I've got some loopholes to work out. But yeah, anyways... I got over my passionate pleas for let's not kill the innocent. No matter what, someone will die, so we may as well narrow it down. As long as the villagers win, there'll be a big party to celebrate the fact that not everyone died. And I like parties.
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:10 AM   #2
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I must say that I am sorry that my connection times have been strange, as my computer is failing miserably. I must say that if you want to kill me, please do. I might even vote for myself, to prove my innocence. But senseless killing lost us Primrose. I may remind you that you don't want the same thing to happen again.

And good faith with good faith, Fea? It seems that those who suffer, suffer all the more...

I must say that even if it gets me killed with a phantom vote for myself, I can't decide who is werewolf. There are too many possibilities in this end-game as it were.

I will not renunciate on my first opinions as those are usually right in most people's cases... So two of you are still innocent in my opinion. But I must say that the last werewolf is duecedly clever.

I don't think I will be able to vote before the time has been reached, and I might die then, so I must ++Mithalwen for seeming friendly yet not actually presenting evidence for opinions.

May my death show you I meant no harm.

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Old 05-18-2005, 11:11 AM   #3
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Well thank you very much - the only time I was not explicit in my reasoning was when I had no time to explain why I opted for Firefoot and it would have implicated the person I thought to be a seer. However I am not vengeful and it is extremely inlikely that you will be my choice though I am yet to review. It looks as if mine will be a lone vote ... but AS ALWAYS I will explain...
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Old 05-18-2005, 12:10 PM   #4
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cue Cole Porter "Mith Alwen regrets she does not agree today..."

Well Bilbo, I am sorry you have voted for me because I think you are innocent but I also think you have effectively signed your own death warrant. Your accusation of me is ludicrous - I was pivotal in deciding both righteous executions - maybe alas in the wrongful one. I wish I had time to post more at lunchtime else I might have saved both our skins..... however you did not care to look at my reasoning.

I genuinely never expected to be making this vote and so once the truth about Primrose was announced, I thought over things and came to a conclusion I did not want to see. I had been seduced by the idea that one of the werewolves would be keeping a low profile. I realised for all my minor suspicions, the final werewolf might have been very vocal. As I said I suspected the phantom, but the Phantom is dead.

So why the

Phantom not me? We both more or less published a rank order of suspicion. Bilbo and Oddwen had little reason to get me out of the way. In these late stages the voting will get random and the Phantom had been more suspected than me.

If Kuruharan were the werewolf, I am sure he would have killed me, he was next in order.
He said something early on about the simplest explanation was the best... at last I agree. This is the instinct I had last night and now I feel events support it. I think when we debated between Fea and Firefoot we debated in effect which werewold to hang first. When we were right about Firefoot, Fea managed to deflect suspicion. Look back, she has jumped on bandwagons with Primrose and Bilbo and Phantom had her second on his list and is now dead.

I think that it was also maybe a quid pro quo for allowing friendship to influence the choice between her and Firefoot. She is so clever.... if you look she has managed to sympathize and support me while also suggesting I am not above suspicion. But I think our werewolves were so enthusiastic about their role they got a little carried away at first - Fea managed to turn it around, but I still think on reflection, that the most likely explanation is that she is a werewolf. As Phantom pointed out Mormegil did not clear her - I think he wanted to bag Firefoot while deflecting Fea's attention.

Of course I may be quite wrong and if so I am sorry - I am not absolutely certain but it is what my head and heart tell me. To pick one of the others would be completely random. If one of them is guilty then I salute you for playing a blinder..... but I will vote with conscience not ease. Reread..... see what the dead have thought....

Phantom - I think you lost your life for mine, and I think this is how you would have voted too ++Feanor of the Peredhil
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Old 05-18-2005, 01:08 PM   #5
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Mith, I must say you have convinced me. I don't know how to go about voting for someone. Thank you for believing in my innocence. So --Mithalwen and wait for my new vote.

I am so confused in this disturbing finale. I just hope that someone wins.

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Old 05-18-2005, 02:24 PM   #6
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Oh my... dear Mithalwen, please say you'll listen to my defense. Of course you will... you are far more of a fair judge than I am. Please let me try to change your mind.

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Look back, she has jumped on bandwagons with Primrose and Bilbo and Phantom had her second on his list and is now dead.
I did no such thing. If you'll remember, I commented that I suspected bilbo in one of my very first posts. And even though that entire post is cloaked in a teasing nature, I did say quite early on about bilbo that:

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With Primrose, I've had a weird feeling all along, even though it turned out to be wrong. But quoting her, she said:

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in post #74. Since I was obviously wrong, I'm feeling more likely to listen to her instincts than my own. My accusal of bilbo, although cold, is not entirely random, as even the other night, glancing over my list of players and thoughts about them, I scratched a small black "W" by his name.

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My suspicions of Primrose were not unfounded, but were obviously hasty. I couldn't understand why somebody innocent would not be more vocal. I had my trinity of bad guy personas fixed in my head (the out-spoken, the average, the sneak) and she fit the sneak so well, seeing as how she was so unsuspicous. It seemed to me that someone that over-looked could only be guilty. It's like the criminal who then proceeds to be really really good for awhile to avert suspicion, or the sinner who then tries to make up for it with a lot of good deeds. I'm sorry that I was wrong, but I try to listen to my instincts... in real life, they're great. I'm sorry they aren't so wonderful when I can't read your faces.

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And why would I kill the phantom? I only just started to believe him again. I pointed out all the evidence I thought pointed to him in as organized a manner as I could, but after a large amount of dissuasion on his part I changed my mind. Although he still suspected me, and I suspected him, I finally did ascertain (to myself as well as you) that I believed him innocent. After all that, I'm not about to go off and kill him. He was just starting to believe me.

And really, the only bandwagon I offically jumped onto was this one:

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I'm still not so sure of Firefoot's guilt, but if the majority thinks her a werewolf, I may have to jump onto the bandwagon. After all, I've been wrong before.
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If one of them is guilty then I salute you for playing a blinder.....
I'm not sure what a blinder is (presumably someone or something that intentionally messes with how people see things?), but I will gracefully accept that salute.

I stand by my vote for bilbo... I can only hope you change your mind, Mith.

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Old 05-18-2005, 02:30 PM   #7
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Oh, and this:

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I probably won't be able to post again before the time comes, so I must with a heavy heart cast my vote for ++ANGUIREL even though it is very out of character.
It could be a harmless choice of words, but how ironic would it be if bilbo really is our werewolf and told us so himself?
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