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Old 05-20-2005, 07:45 PM   #1
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Tolkien About the genealogy

I used a genealogic tree what i found on the web (the name of the creator was "Eril", maybe you can know who is he, i'm not in all this) and i reform it acording on what i found over the web, and when i (thought that) finished the work, i print. And now i'm doing a genealogic tree of the hobbits family, like Baggins, Gamgee, Took, Brandybuck and Bolger, Boffin, Proudfoot, etc.
I don't know if the names are trues of falses. I can't choose none of them because i don't have the book (only Silmarillion, Hobbit, and LOTR) but i do what i can. I don't remember so well, but, is not true that in the Silmarillion Ereinion Gil-Galad is the son of Fingon?
I have all the works in a 300 Kb zip (still on construction) but i don't where can i post it.

On the page http://www.annalsofarda.dk/Annals-of...rdoRhutext.htm is a table of the Kings of Arthedain, Cardolan and Rhuadaur... Are this men really kings of those kingdoms?


Well, this is all that i can write with my poor english. I expect it can help you.


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Old 05-21-2005, 02:39 PM   #2
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First of all, welcome, and you've done a wonderful job!

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With Celeborn being Sindar and Galadriel Noldor, how exactly did the two of them end up Lord and Lady of Lothlórien? Is that even allowed? I can't remember if there was anything on this in The Silmarillion. I kept confusing myself and thinking there's some connection between the Lórien Elves and Celeborn's relations because of similarities in the names: the Lórien Elves are also called the Galadhrim, and Celeborn married Galadriel, with Galadhon as father, Galathil as brother. Only then there's also Gil-galad. Now I see this is just an Elvish naming streak. :P Thanks for clearing that up.
The Lorien elves are called the Galadhrim, Galadh is Sindarin for Tree I believe, to they are the People of the Trees. However, Galadriel uses the stem Galad, meaning light in Quenya; I cannot remember but I think her name means Maiden of Light or some such thing. Gil-Galad again comes from Galad, Quenya for light, the name means Star-light. The similarity comes from the words Galadh and Galad in the two Elven languages being so similar. Hope this helps.

I also thought Ereinion Gil-Galad was the son of Fingon.

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EDIT: I've just checked my copy of the Silm, Gil-galad is the son of Fingon in the latest version.
EDIT II: A minor note: Maiar and Vanyar are plurals (as are most Quenya words ending in "r"), the singular should be Maia and Vanya in lotr-a.bmp.
Again, congratulations on tackling so great a task.

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Old 05-21-2005, 05:26 PM   #3
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White Tree My little work

This is an small screenshot of what i did (such like i say before the zip's size is around 300 Kb, and all the files 12 Mb). It doesn't have any kind of dates, only names. Like Yadie and the guy that did the table i used for the same purpose, i try to keep a certain color code.
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