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Old 05-24-2005, 07:16 AM   #1
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Now Anguirel is gone, and I'm relieved that he was no wolf, but I'm quite afraid now that we've no guardian.
You knew quite well that he was no wolf, being one yourself!

You say that you voted for Fordim because there was no evidence to convict Phantom -- hogwash! There was less evidence against Fordim by any stretch of imagination: it was Phantom, after all, who suggested that he thought the murder of Oddwen was undertaken by mere wolves (his explanation being that he automatically assumed the silly villagers had exaggerated the nature of the killing).

It was you, Feanor of the Peredhil who so adamantly defended The Phantom, even calling poor old Fordim a "fool"; Encaitare who defended you despite the fact that she could not possibly know of your innocence unless she herself was a werewolf; and The Phantom, who defended Encaitare, only seemingly half in jest. Quite a coincidence then, that the three you name as being suspicious -- Aina, Eomer and Dancing Spawn -- are all excluded from this threesome, as well as the one who moved to the top of Phantom's "suspect list" in the wake of Fordim's hanging: Nimrodel_9. You used them all to off Fordim, and now your fangéd triumvirate can name them as suspects to deflect attention from yourselves!

I will cast my vote early on this day: String up ++Feanor of the Peredhil!

*Gasping for breath, amazed at having heard his own voice echo so loudly through the hall, the carpenter staggered, and fainted*

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Old 05-24-2005, 08:45 AM   #2
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dancing spawn's voting once a clear majority had been reached tweak my nerve.
Have we come to this? Well, I'm sorry but even though I'm used to long days and tough work, I must sleep every now and then. It doesn't bother me if you want to stay up all night long (what she just might do), but I sleep at nights.

I have been thinking of what people have said on the first day and re-read their arguments and there's a thing that catches my eye every time. Now, I know that by accusing someone so hastily, I might end up joining Fordim. Also, if I should die during next night, I want to tell you, what I noticed.

There are three werewolves running around and I might have found some evidence, who they could be.

Fea didn't quite like Anguirel.
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She glared more or less equally at almost everybody, glaring slightly more forebodingly at Anguirel.
Encaitare was very quick to defend Fea.
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What's all this finger-pointin'?? 'Specially against Miz Fea here, who never did nothin' but help yer sick! Why, jus' las' month she gave me a tonic fer me achin' old joints, she did.
Then she (Enca) said:
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I'm thinkin' it's gotta be someone bigger an' stronger.
She probably tried to shift blame to males.
Holbytlass, for one, is friends with Enca.
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I'm glad Encaitare came, we old ladies will do our best to bestow wisdom on this matter
Enca spoke a bit harshly to Anguirel.
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An', Mr. Anguirel, I resent what ye said -- scared an' stayin' at home, my foot!
I'd believe that Son of Numenor came up with a theory of the same kind as I even earlier:
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but Encaitare defending Fea seems strange, for insooth none of us should be defending anyone based solely on character. Evil wears many faces, as they say. That Enca would go out of her way to defend one person -- a person who has not even been directly accused, I believe -- to whom she has no familial relation, seems suspect
Holbytlass defends Enca.
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But I think Enca's defence of Fea is not suspect (at this time) but just Enca being a product of her time.
Here's then what Fea said about Encaitare:
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I pray you all, do not be so quick to suspect Encaitare... our long friendship may cloud her thoughts, but she is more honorable than even I... not a tricksy bone in her, while I am quite fond of causing a wee bit of mischief.
Anguirel ended up voting for Holbytlass.

I don't undervalue Eomer's statement about Holbytlass. I know, if there were only a couple quotes, I wouldn't have the right to accuse anyone. It wouldn't even be very wise. All this, though, seems like an awful lot of evidence. I don't want to vote for anybody yet because it might be that they all aren't werewolves. It's still likely that a couple of them are and they are just using the third one.
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Old 05-24-2005, 08:52 AM   #3
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*Fea looks at the prone body and spits in disgust.*

Quite honestly, SoNo, I thought you were more intelligent than that.

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You knew quite well that he was no wolf, being one yourself
I obviously missed something important while I was gone yesterday, since I was unaware that I was so high on your list of innocents to randomly accuse and/or kill.

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There was less evidence against Fordim by any stretch of imagination:
Explain to me then, SoNo, why any innocent (besides my lovely namesake in the other village) would start accusing with no evidence, vote so early on without hearing a single word against it (and vote irrevocably, which not even my namesake was fool enough to do), and be so utterly abrasive to everyone? If I can hear a plausible reason for me not to have thought him the only one lynchable given the present evidence at the time I had no choice but to leave at, than I will quite forcefully say "Oops." Since he was the only one I could vote for in somewhat good conscience when I left, I have no regrets.

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It was you, Feanor of the Peredhil who so adamantly defended The Phantom, even calling poor old Fordim a "fool";
There wasn't the slightest bit of plausible evidence against the phantom at the time. Had I seen another person being so randomly and quite badly accused at the time, rest assured that I would have been defending him or her as well. And he called me one first, insinuating that I am easily fooled into siding with anyone. Choosing a character as an almost private (but not even, because it happened in the last thread) joke has nothing whatsoever with whether or not I eventually decide that Fordim was right and the phantom requires death. That decision will come when somebody presents believable evidence, or when I make astute observations on my own.

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Encaitare who defended you despite the fact that she could not possibly know of your innocence unless she herself was a werewolf
That could be one of two things: we are friends, and she is giving me the benefit of the doubt and pointing out that there was no evidence against me... or you're right and she's trying to ally herself with me much like Anguirel's namesake in the last village did.

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You used them all to off Fordim, and now your fangéd triumvirate can name them as suspects to deflect attention from yourselves!
I applaud your vocabulary, but actually, I suggest you reread some of my posts. I gave fair (and quite early) warning that I wouldn't be around yesterday, and lo and behold, I wasn't. How can somebody not even remotely present (since I was some four hours away from my computer) use people? All I did was vote for the person who seemed most suspicous at the time. Fault me if you want, but quite honestly, if you really think I'm guilty, then I really think you're a bit of an idiot. I think it's far more likely that your weak arguements and hasty vote for me are to cast a shadow on my purity and sway the innocent villagers into thinking along the lines of your own werewolf self.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:00 AM   #4
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The mason grumbled, "Namecalling and whining cast an even greater shadow on your so-called purity. Let's try to be civil in our arguments, and save the nastiness for the gallows."
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:02 AM   #5
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I realize Sono just voted for you, Feanor, but please, bring the smelling salts....Oh dear, another quick-voter.
Eomer is supicious of Aina
Feanor is of Eomer, Aina, Dancing Spawn
Sonofnumenor of Phantom, Encaitare, and voted Feanor
(To be fair) the late Anguirel of Holbytlass
The only thing we are absolute on is Oddwen, Fordim and Anguirel are innocent.
I did vote Fordim and he turned out to be innocent. This does not proof that Phantom is a werewolf nor that he isn't. I think his mind was bent on avenging Oddwen, they shared a mutual love of animals, she may have held a special place in his heart.
One person I'd like to bring up again is Nimrodel9. Fordim at very first was eyeing Phantom and Aina. Then he made his hasty decision for Phantom. It is strange that Nimrodel9 would be constantly naming her 'best-friend' Aina as a werewolf (post31) even after I stated the obvious that because of Fordim's quick vote, it had landed Phantom and himself on the block(post 20). (Of course, this is why I'm in trouble). And where are her parents, really?
As for Feanor, sure she should be lynched up for her loose tongue and overpriced medical bills, but that's about all she is guilty of.
I have major suspicions on Nimrodel9
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:17 AM   #6
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*Fea belatedly pulls out her smelling salts and hands them over*

And I wasn't really name calling... it was more of an if/then statement. If he honestly thinks I'm guilty with such little evidence against me, then he's a fool.

And if I had not argued for my own innocence, what then? Would you attack me for not behaving like myself? Would you claim that I was not an accomplished enough liar to pull off arguing my case against SoNo? Perhaps I should have kept my mouth shut, but more because his accusation is so ludicrous than for any other reason.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:39 AM   #7
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How could you suspect old master Fordim? What madness took you?
I think you know why he got lynched, Eomer. It was because he came out swinging and voted so quickly.

And I certainly hope no one blames me for my counter attack on Fordim and my vote since it was either his death or mine.
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Ainaserkewen. That lass, sweet and delightful looking though she be, has an air of treachery around her so great it now makes me shudder.
Eomer, she gives me a shiver as well, but I think my suspicion of Aina might have more to do with the role she fills in this village- sweet little innocent girl. Truthfully, I don't really think there's a good reason to suspect her. Not unless she gives me one, anyway.
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The werewolves are clearly trying to set her (Holbytlass) up
Well- I'm not so sure. It seems a bit too obvious to me. Would wolves have attempted such an obvious set up? Perhaps Holbtylass killed Anguirel and knew that everyone would assume it was a set up because it was so obvious.

I'm not saying that's a for sure, Holbytlass, and I'm not ready to vote yet, so don't get yourself too worked up.
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The one, much as it swashbuckles me to say, that I currently suspect most, is Eomer of the Rohirrim.
We certainly can't rule anyone out, but Eomer is not high on my suspect list at all. I suggest we keep him out of this for right now as too many names and accusations muddy up the water.
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It was you, Feanor of the Peredhil who so adamantly defended The Phantom
She's my wife.
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The Phantom, who defended Encaitare, seemingly half in jest
A defense based on "gum marks" is obviously a jest.
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You used them all to off Fordim
Now- that's not true at all!

Fordim was the first to attack. Who did he attack? Me. Was he the seer? No, so he obviously knew nothing. The fact is, I was hoping for more people to show up and post and see if we couldn't get people to say some suspicious things so we could make a better decision, but Fordim forced my hand.

As far as the others that voted for him, it was either Fordim, or me. You can't prove much by a choice that is nothing but a coin toss.

And did you hear Dancing Spawn's theory? It is entirely possible to have a "fangéd triumvirate" without including me.

Overall, a pretty well worked out theory, with some good quotes to back it up. Although, Spawn, I must tell you that I don't like you including Fea on your list, and I'm not likely to vote for her unless both of the other two turn out to be wolves and the seer proclaims Fea's guilt.
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It's still likely that a couple of them are and they are just using the third one.
They could just be using Fea.
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I have major suspicions on Nimrodel9
It's nice I'm not the only one, but I must admit that it's only a gut feeling. After reading everyone's posts today I think there is better concrete evidence for others at this time. But if we try SoN's theory or Dancing Spawn's theory and they turn out to be a false lead, we couldn't afford to ignore Nim any longer.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:52 AM   #8
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*Sono awoke in a daze, with Feanor of the Peredhil standing over him. Captured by the 'wolves! he thought, but soon realized that she was trying to revive him with smelling salts.

He heard The Phantom speaking as he stood up:*

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A defense based on "gum marks" is obviously a jest.
Nevertheless, your comment was meant to divert attention from Encaitare to other suspects.
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