Tol-in-Gaurhoth III (The Saga Continues...) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the phantom · 06-04-2005, 10:40 AM

Morm- you ask why I was for the plan and then against it? Isn't it obvious? The seer plan seems carefully crafted to help the wolves and if I would've done my extremely strong anit-plan post immediately I doubt a single person would've had the guts to go along with it. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I believe that my words against the plan carry an awful lot of weight- enough to discourage most people from buying into it. By defending it, I was attempting to provide the wolves with some cover- in other words, make the wolves feel as if they could support it and not look like they were alone and conspicuous. They would think "Hey, the phantom is supporting it- we can go ahead and do it too."

EVERYONE- Don't lynch me. Only the wolves would benefit from that.

I will vote for + + Evisse.

If I'm wrong, perhaps I'll go after Morm next. I don't much like being voted for.

Evisse the Blue · 06-04-2005, 10:46 AM

*tosses a raw fish in the direction of the phantom*

How convenient of you to appear precisely now, phantom.

If I am to be lynched I shall of course meet my unfortunate demise with dignity, despite my low bearing, but the village shall be none the better for it. I can only be glad for those who did not vote for me as they will be the only ones with a clear conscience after this.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-04-2005, 10:46 AM

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They would think "Hey, the phantom is supporting it- we can go ahead and do it too."

The amazing thing is that it is just like the phantom to think like this ...

I would point out that there is a dreadful danger, as the votes currently stand, for any Werewolf who has not yet voted to ensure that two Villagers get lynched, one of whom is almost certain to be innocent. Please, let's try to ensure that doesn't happen ...

mormegil · 06-04-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

The amazing thing is that it is just like the phantom to think like this ...

But I would ask isn't it also like the phantom to know that he could say that and we would believe that was his intention thus giving him cover. He plans not only the next move but the move after that.

And the phantom has also said that he may go for me next round, which is fine, but to do so because I voted for him seems paltry and unreasonable. I have said that we ought to be suspicious of all but to threaten to go after me based on no evidence given seems petty and suspicious even more.

Firefoot · 06-04-2005, 10:58 AM

Seven, ten, seven-tenths, same thing...

I'm not really convinced of the guilt of either phantom or Evisse, though I am suspicious.

I could vote for Evisse; Evisse would be hung almost undoubtedly since Azaelia has yet to show her face.

I could vote for phantom; either both Evisse and phantom would be hung or it could still be either/or, depending on the final vote.

I could vote for Fordim and have virtually no effect on the voting whatsoever.

Umm...

++Fordim - he is the one who I am most suspicious of, and therefore cast my vote at the risk of seeming dispassionate about the end result.

Oh, and one interesting thing I noticed: we're at 90-something posts, which is only about 20 fewer posts than were in the entire 2nd game...

the guy who be short · 06-04-2005, 11:02 AM

Game? what do you mean, lass?
Ooh, times up.

Evisse the Blue · 06-04-2005, 11:07 AM

Guys and gals, if you see me laughing on the way to the hanging spot, it's because I have a very weird sense of humour.

But some of you at least are sure to cry.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-04-2005, 11:11 AM

And so the votes were scattered all over the place. The village was utterly bamboozled and had no clue as to what to do; they obviously never had werewolves to deal with before.

But so it was that Evisse the Blue attracted more votes than any other villagers.

"I can't believe what you're doing!" she cried, as she was led to the noose. Alternating between disbelieving laughter and anguished tears, she was a hopeless and sorry figure.

"Even if you do go ahead with this and hang me, I wish you well, and hope that you save the village. Please, go to my house." Such gracious and baffling last words, and she was met with bemusement by her fellows. They glanced nervously at each other, completely terrified by the scene unfolding in front of their eyes.

With the noose tight around the fishmonger's neck, the lever was pulled, and in the stony silence of the dusk, everyone heard the sickening crack of Evisse's neck. She hung still, and didn't move again.

The villagers wailed in realisation of their mistake, but the anguish that followed was even greater. Please, go to my house. What did that mean?

They quickly scampered to Evisse's small house, forced open the door, and after a quick search were positively shaking in fear. The books, charts and apparatus of the late Evisse the Blue told no lies: the villagers had murdered the Seer they did not know they had.

Living:

Azaelia of Willowbottom
Firefoot
Fordim Hedgethistle
Holbytlass
Kuruharan
mormegil
Oddwen
Shelob
Son of Numenor
the guy who be short
The Only Real Estel
the phantom
The Saucepan Man

Dead:

Eomer of the Rohirrim (Villager) - mangled by werewolves on NIGHT 1
Evisse the Blue (Seer) - lynched by villagers on DAY 1

Score:

Werewolves: 3
Villagers: 10

NIGHT 2 has now started. It will end in 24 hours' time at 6:30 PM GMT (that's 1:30 PM EST) and (12:30 PM Central) on Sunday, or earlier if all night-time business is received by me before then.

*Just a reminder: there's no talking during the NIGHT. The Hunter, the Guardian and the Werewolves (although amazingly not the Seer!) are the only players who have duties to perform. Thanks.*

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-05-2005, 07:59 AM

The villagers woke up early. They were still distressed by the horrible sight they had seen yesterday morning, and by the awful deed they had perpetrated in the evening. There was a nervous chill in the morning air.

Still, they got dressed as usual and went to get food for their breakfast. Greeting each other as they walked along the street, they noticed something slightly unusual: the village was quiet. But why? What was missing? Ah yes, the sound of poetry. The village bard the guy who be short was always awake before anyone else and could always be found sitting in front of the town hall reciting some of his beautiful poetry.........

So why the silence? The nervous chill suddenly became more apparent.

The villagers rushed to the bard's house and were relieved to catch sight of their friend's normally good-natured face. He was by the window, admittedly looking rather glum. What's the matter? shouted the villagers. As far as they could see, there was no new sign of werewolf activity, and their hopes were raised. Come on, friend they said, and told him of their thoughts. But there was no answer.

Confused, the villagers decided to go and comfort him. Perhaps he had just finished a particularly sad poem. the guy who be short was very talented, after all.

They found the front door open, so they walked in. Though they soon regretted it: inside the house, they found suspended from the ceiling, the decapitated body of the guy who be short.

Living:

Azaelia of Willowbottom
Firefoot
Fordim Hedgethistle
Holbytlass
Kuruharan
mormegil
Oddwen
Shelob
Son of Numenor
The Only Real Estel
the phantom
The Saucepan Man

Dead:

Eomer of the Rohirrim (Villager) - mangled by werewolves on NIGHT 1
Evisse the Blue (Seer) - lynched by villagers on DAY 1
the guy who be short (Villager) - decapitated by werewolves on NIGHT 2

Score:

Werewolves: 3
Villagers: 9

DAY 2 has begun now it is 3PM GMT (that's 10AM EST) and (9AM Central). It will end in 24 hours' time, or earlier if a majority vote is reached before then.

*Reminder: I should be able to post every result on time but I may sometimes be out by a few hours. This may look strange to some players, particularly the Americans. Still, votes should be cast within 24 hours and not after.*

The Only Real Estel · 06-04-2005, 11:01 AM

I am torn between a couple of different opinions at the moment. If we assume that Fordim's plan is has been to confuse us or provide the werewolves with an easier means of winning the game, then I should be following Saucey's reasoning and vote for Evisse, SoN, or Fordim. The most logical knee-jerk reaction would be for me to vote fore SoN because he voted for me. However, I do not see how this would help things because not only do I try not to hold gut feelings against people, I am not sure of his guilt. But since I am not sure of any one person's guilt it would seem that my obligation to the village is to make sure that one villager gets lynched and not two (I won't even go into what the odds would be that we could possibly score a double wolf-lynching, so I see no reason to lynch two villagers).

My vote goes to ++ Evisse.
If you are indeed innocent my attention will turn to SpM & tp.

edit: I said 'my' suspicions. I hope that if I do not last the night all of your suspicions will turn toward SpM and the phantom and those two will be examined throughly. I still do not overly suspect them, but if Evisse is in fact innocent, they start to rise on my very own 'short list'.

06-04-2005, 10:40 AM	#1
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Morm- you ask why I was for the plan and then against it? Isn't it obvious? The seer plan seems carefully crafted to help the wolves and if I would've done my extremely strong anit-plan post immediately I doubt a single person would've had the guts to go along with it. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I believe that my words against the plan carry an awful lot of weight- enough to discourage most people from buying into it. By defending it, I was attempting to provide the wolves with some cover- in other words, make the wolves feel as if they could support it and not look like they were alone and conspicuous. They would think "Hey, the phantom is supporting it- we can go ahead and do it too." EVERYONE- Don't lynch me. Only the wolves would benefit from that. I will vote for + + Evisse. If I'm wrong, perhaps I'll go after Morm next. I don't much like being voted for. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-04-2005, 10:46 AM	#2
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	tosses a raw fish in the direction of the phantom** How convenient of you to appear precisely now, phantom. If I am to be lynched I shall of course meet my unfortunate demise with dignity, despite my low bearing, but the village shall be none the better for it. I can only be glad for those who did not vote for me as they will be the only ones with a clear conscience after this. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-04-2005, 11:07 AM	#7
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	yes, time's up, so I can safely say this: Guys and gals, if you see me laughing on the way to the hanging spot, it's because I have a very weird sense of humour. But some of you at least are sure to cry. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-04-2005, 11:11 AM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	And so the votes were scattered all over the place. The village was utterly bamboozled and had no clue as to what to do; they obviously never had werewolves to deal with before. But so it was that Evisse the Blue attracted more votes than any other villagers. "I can't believe what you're doing!" she cried, as she was led to the noose. Alternating between disbelieving laughter and anguished tears, she was a hopeless and sorry figure. "Even if you do go ahead with this and hang me, I wish you well, and hope that you save the village. Please, go to my house." Such gracious and baffling last words, and she was met with bemusement by her fellows. They glanced nervously at each other, completely terrified by the scene unfolding in front of their eyes. With the noose tight around the fishmonger's neck, the lever was pulled, and in the stony silence of the dusk, everyone heard the sickening crack of Evisse's neck. She hung still, and didn't move again. The villagers wailed in realisation of their mistake, but the anguish that followed was even greater. Please, go to my house. What did that mean? They quickly scampered to Evisse's small house, forced open the door, and after a quick search were positively shaking in fear. The books, charts and apparatus of the late Evisse the Blue told no lies: the villagers had murdered the Seer they did not know they had. Living: Azaelia of Willowbottom Firefoot Fordim Hedgethistle Holbytlass Kuruharan mormegil Oddwen Shelob Son of Numenor the guy who be short The Only Real Estel the phantom The Saucepan Man Dead: Eomer of the Rohirrim (Villager) - mangled by werewolves on NIGHT 1 Evisse the Blue (Seer) - lynched by villagers on DAY 1 Score: Werewolves: 3 Villagers: 10 NIGHT 2 has now started. It will end in 24 hours' time at 6:30 PM GMT (that's 1:30 PM EST) and (12:30 PM Central) on Sunday, or earlier if all night-time business is received by me before then. Just a reminder: there's no talking during the NIGHT. The Hunter, the Guardian and the Werewolves (although amazingly not the Seer!) are the only players who have duties to perform. Thanks. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond Last edited by Eomer of the Rohirrim; 06-04-2005 at 11:58 AM.

06-05-2005, 07:59 AM	#9
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Roses are red..... and so is blood The villagers woke up early. They were still distressed by the horrible sight they had seen yesterday morning, and by the awful deed they had perpetrated in the evening. There was a nervous chill in the morning air. Still, they got dressed as usual and went to get food for their breakfast. Greeting each other as they walked along the street, they noticed something slightly unusual: the village was quiet. But why? What was missing? Ah yes, the sound of poetry. The village bard the guy who be short was always awake before anyone else and could always be found sitting in front of the town hall reciting some of his beautiful poetry......... So why the silence? The nervous chill suddenly became more apparent. The villagers rushed to the bard's house and were relieved to catch sight of their friend's normally good-natured face. He was by the window, admittedly looking rather glum. What's the matter? shouted the villagers. As far as they could see, there was no new sign of werewolf activity, and their hopes were raised. Come on, friend they said, and told him of their thoughts. But there was no answer. Confused, the villagers decided to go and comfort him. Perhaps he had just finished a particularly sad poem. the guy who be short was very talented, after all. They found the front door open, so they walked in. Though they soon regretted it: inside the house, they found suspended from the ceiling, the decapitated body of the guy who be short. Living: Azaelia of Willowbottom Firefoot Fordim Hedgethistle Holbytlass Kuruharan mormegil Oddwen Shelob Son of Numenor The Only Real Estel the phantom The Saucepan Man Dead: Eomer of the Rohirrim (Villager) - mangled by werewolves on NIGHT 1 Evisse the Blue (Seer) - lynched by villagers on DAY 1 the guy who be short (Villager) - decapitated by werewolves on NIGHT 2 Score: Werewolves: 3 Villagers: 9 DAY 2 has begun now it is 3PM GMT (that's 10AM EST) and (9AM Central). It will end in 24 hours' time, or earlier if a majority vote is reached before then. Reminder: I should be able to post every result on time but I may sometimes be out by a few hours. This may look strange to some players, particularly the Americans. Still, votes should be cast within 24 hours and not after. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

06-04-2005, 10:58 AM	#5
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Seven, ten, seven-tenths, same thing... I'm not really convinced of the guilt of either phantom or Evisse, though I am suspicious. I could vote for Evisse; Evisse would be hung almost undoubtedly since Azaelia has yet to show her face. I could vote for phantom; either both Evisse and phantom would be hung or it could still be either/or, depending on the final vote. I could vote for Fordim and have virtually no effect on the voting whatsoever. Umm... ++Fordim - he is the one who I am most suspicious of, and therefore cast my vote at the risk of seeming dispassionate about the end result. Oh, and one interesting thing I noticed: we're at 90-something posts, which is only about 20 fewer posts than were in the entire 2nd game...

06-04-2005, 11:02 AM	#6
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Game? what do you mean, lass? Ooh, times up.

06-04-2005, 11:01 AM	#10
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	I am torn between a couple of different opinions at the moment. If we assume that Fordim's plan is has been to confuse us or provide the werewolves with an easier means of winning the game, then I should be following Saucey's reasoning and vote for Evisse, SoN, or Fordim. The most logical knee-jerk reaction would be for me to vote fore SoN because he voted for me. However, I do not see how this would help things because not only do I try not to hold gut feelings against people, I am not sure of his guilt. But since I am not sure of any one person's guilt it would seem that my obligation to the village is to make sure that one villager gets lynched and not two (I won't even go into what the odds would be that we could possibly score a double wolf-lynching, so I see no reason to lynch two villagers). My vote goes to ++ Evisse. If you are indeed innocent my attention will turn to SpM & tp. edit: I said 'my' suspicions. I hope that if I do not last the night all of your suspicions will turn toward SpM and the phantom and those two will be examined throughly. I still do not overly suspect them, but if Evisse is in fact innocent, they start to rise on my very own 'short list'. Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 06-04-2005 at 11:11 AM. Reason: adding a bit at the end (no, not my vote! that was already there...)