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Larien Telemnar · 06-04-2005, 07:45 PM

Okee thankee! I'll look for it, let's see who gets there first!

I race you!

cookieman · 06-04-2005, 08:02 PM

I found it! It's in chapter two: The Shadow of the Past. About three pages into the chapter.
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"All right," said Sam,"But what about those Tree-men, these giants, as you might call them? They do say that one bigger than a tree was seen up away beyond the North Moors not long back."

"Who's they?"

"My cousin Hal for one. He works for Mr. Boffin at Overhill and goes up to the Northfarthing for the hunting. He saw one."

"Says he did, perhaps. Your Hal's always saying he's seen things; and maybe he sees things that ain't there."

"But this one was as big as an elm tree, and walking - walking seven yards to a stride, if it was an inch."

cookieman · 06-04-2005, 08:13 PM

At one time The Old Forrest was connected to Fangorn forrest.

Three remain of the first Ents: Fangorn (Treebeard), Finglas (Leaflock), and Fladrif (Skinbark). There were more ents, though. I wonder how far spread out they were. What are your thoughts. Were there still ents scattered throughout the forrests of ME? I think so.

Larien Telemnar · 06-04-2005, 09:08 PM

Awww you beat me! I just found it, too, haha! Foiled again.

Weel, there was that one Ent that Merry and Pippin befriended. OH! What was his name............ Umum...... quick-something, right? ACH! I'm gonna have to look it up!

AHA! Quickbeam, that's who I'm looking for. My favorite Ent was Quickbeam, but I always favored the name Finglas. More poetic, I think.

I'll look to see if there are others.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-05-2005, 12:53 PM

Maybe Merry and Pippin did not know about Sam's tale. Maybe, after being mocked in said pub, Sam just didn't bother to tell anyone else. And remember that he didn't have too much contact with Merry or Pippin until Frodo left home.

Folwren · 06-24-2005, 02:45 PM

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Maybe Merry and Pippin did not know about Sam's tale. Maybe, after being mocked in said pub, Sam just didn't bother to tell anyone else. And remember that he didn't have too much contact with Merry or Pippin until Frodo left home.

They may not have known about his story, but they were having contact with him because he was the one doing all their spying up at Bag End.

And I don't know why Pippin or Merry didn't mention anything to Treebeard...I've never thought about it. But it could easily have slipped their mind, seeing as the poor chaps had just been through a lot.

I highly doubt Sam was daunted by Ted's jeering in the Green Dragon.

the guy who be short · 06-24-2005, 03:14 PM

The complex theory:

Sam never told Merry and Pippin because it's not really a subject that crops up often. "Hey Sam, have you seen any walking trees recently?

If you thought that was simple... the simple theory:

Tolkien forgot about it. Posibly he put it in intending to have some connection to the Ents or some later relevance and then forgot. He was only human, after all, despite contrary opinion.

06-04-2005, 07:45 PM	#1
Larien Telemnar Wight Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frogmorton, The Shire, Middle-Earth Posts: 110	Okee thankee! I'll look for it, let's see who gets there first! I race you! __________________ Oh look! It's a Blog!! What's it do? Pushes button Hammer zings out SPLAT! Flat Hobbit Oh! So that's what it does! Moan

06-04-2005, 09:08 PM	#4
Larien Telemnar Wight Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frogmorton, The Shire, Middle-Earth Posts: 110	Awww you beat me! I just found it, too, haha! Foiled again. Weel, there was that one Ent that Merry and Pippin befriended. OH! What was his name............ Umum...... quick-something, right? ACH! I'm gonna have to look it up! AHA! Quickbeam, that's who I'm looking for. My favorite Ent was Quickbeam, but I always favored the name Finglas. More poetic, I think. I'll look to see if there are others. __________________ Oh look! It's a Blog!! What's it do? Pushes button Hammer zings out SPLAT! Flat Hobbit Oh! So that's what it does! Moan

06-05-2005, 12:53 PM	#5
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Maybe Merry and Pippin did not know about Sam's tale. Maybe, after being mocked in said pub, Sam just didn't bother to tell anyone else. And remember that he didn't have too much contact with Merry or Pippin until Frodo left home. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

06-04-2005, 08:02 PM	#2
cookieman Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	I found it! It's in chapter two: The Shadow of the Past. About three pages into the chapter. --------------------------------------------------------------------- "All right," said Sam,"But what about those Tree-men, these giants, as you might call them? They do say that one bigger than a tree was seen up away beyond the North Moors not long back." "Who's they?" "My cousin Hal for one. He works for Mr. Boffin at Overhill and goes up to the Northfarthing for the hunting. He saw one." "Says he did, perhaps. Your Hal's always saying he's seen things; and maybe he sees things that ain't there." "But this one was as big as an elm tree, and walking - walking seven yards to a stride, if it was an inch."

06-04-2005, 08:13 PM	#3
cookieman Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	At one time The Old Forrest was connected to Fangorn forrest. Three remain of the first Ents: Fangorn (Treebeard), Finglas (Leaflock), and Fladrif (Skinbark). There were more ents, though. I wonder how far spread out they were. What are your thoughts. Were there still ents scattered throughout the forrests of ME? I think so.

06-24-2005, 03:14 PM	#7
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	The complex theory: Sam never told Merry and Pippin because it's not really a subject that crops up often. "Hey Sam, have you seen any walking trees recently? If you thought that was simple... the simple theory: Tolkien forgot about it. Posibly he put it in intending to have some connection to the Ents or some later relevance and then forgot. He was only human, after all, despite contrary opinion.