The Entwives - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

cookieman · 06-04-2005, 08:13 PM

At one time The Old Forrest was connected to Fangorn forrest.

Three remain of the first Ents: Fangorn (Treebeard), Finglas (Leaflock), and Fladrif (Skinbark). There were more ents, though. I wonder how far spread out they were. What are your thoughts. Were there still ents scattered throughout the forrests of ME? I think so.

Larien Telemnar · 06-04-2005, 09:08 PM

Awww you beat me! I just found it, too, haha! Foiled again.

Weel, there was that one Ent that Merry and Pippin befriended. OH! What was his name............ Umum...... quick-something, right? ACH! I'm gonna have to look it up!

AHA! Quickbeam, that's who I'm looking for. My favorite Ent was Quickbeam, but I always favored the name Finglas. More poetic, I think.

I'll look to see if there are others.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-05-2005, 12:53 PM

Maybe Merry and Pippin did not know about Sam's tale. Maybe, after being mocked in said pub, Sam just didn't bother to tell anyone else. And remember that he didn't have too much contact with Merry or Pippin until Frodo left home.

Folwren · 06-24-2005, 02:45 PM

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Maybe Merry and Pippin did not know about Sam's tale. Maybe, after being mocked in said pub, Sam just didn't bother to tell anyone else. And remember that he didn't have too much contact with Merry or Pippin until Frodo left home.

They may not have known about his story, but they were having contact with him because he was the one doing all their spying up at Bag End.

And I don't know why Pippin or Merry didn't mention anything to Treebeard...I've never thought about it. But it could easily have slipped their mind, seeing as the poor chaps had just been through a lot.

I highly doubt Sam was daunted by Ted's jeering in the Green Dragon.

the guy who be short · 06-24-2005, 03:14 PM

The complex theory:

Sam never told Merry and Pippin because it's not really a subject that crops up often. "Hey Sam, have you seen any walking trees recently?

If you thought that was simple... the simple theory:

Tolkien forgot about it. Posibly he put it in intending to have some connection to the Ents or some later relevance and then forgot. He was only human, after all, despite contrary opinion.

Kuruharan · 06-24-2005, 04:21 PM

I bet they talked about it afterwards, since Merry and Pippin had been in contact with walking trees.

However, I suspect that dear cousin Hal might have had a few more than was quite good for him (awfully boring out there on the moor). I seriously doubt he saw an Ent.

the guy who be short · 06-25-2005, 06:27 AM

I took the question to mean why M&P didn't tell Treebeard when they first met him and he asked about the sight of Entwives. Who's to say that afterwards, they didn't go back, and the Ents didn't have a last bloom before their fall?

This is quite interesting actually. Why did Tolkien put the line about Hal in? Did he forget about it afterwards? Does it imply that the Ents and Entwives were reunited afterwards?

06-04-2005, 09:08 PM	#2
Larien Telemnar Wight Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frogmorton, The Shire, Middle-Earth Posts: 110	Awww you beat me! I just found it, too, haha! Foiled again. Weel, there was that one Ent that Merry and Pippin befriended. OH! What was his name............ Umum...... quick-something, right? ACH! I'm gonna have to look it up! AHA! Quickbeam, that's who I'm looking for. My favorite Ent was Quickbeam, but I always favored the name Finglas. More poetic, I think. I'll look to see if there are others. __________________ Oh look! It's a Blog!! What's it do? Pushes button Hammer zings out SPLAT! Flat Hobbit Oh! So that's what it does! Moan

06-05-2005, 12:53 PM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Maybe Merry and Pippin did not know about Sam's tale. Maybe, after being mocked in said pub, Sam just didn't bother to tell anyone else. And remember that he didn't have too much contact with Merry or Pippin until Frodo left home. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

06-24-2005, 04:21 PM	#6
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	I bet they talked about it afterwards, since Merry and Pippin had been in contact with walking trees. However, I suspect that dear cousin Hal might have had a few more than was quite good for him (awfully boring out there on the moor). I seriously doubt he saw an Ent. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

06-04-2005, 08:13 PM	#1
cookieman Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	At one time The Old Forrest was connected to Fangorn forrest. Three remain of the first Ents: Fangorn (Treebeard), Finglas (Leaflock), and Fladrif (Skinbark). There were more ents, though. I wonder how far spread out they were. What are your thoughts. Were there still ents scattered throughout the forrests of ME? I think so.

06-24-2005, 03:14 PM	#5
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	The complex theory: Sam never told Merry and Pippin because it's not really a subject that crops up often. "Hey Sam, have you seen any walking trees recently? If you thought that was simple... the simple theory: Tolkien forgot about it. Posibly he put it in intending to have some connection to the Ents or some later relevance and then forgot. He was only human, after all, despite contrary opinion.

06-25-2005, 06:27 AM	#7
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	I took the question to mean why M&P didn't tell Treebeard when they first met him and he asked about the sight of Entwives. Who's to say that afterwards, they didn't go back, and the Ents didn't have a last bloom before their fall? This is quite interesting actually. Why did Tolkien put the line about Hal in? Did he forget about it afterwards? Does it imply that the Ents and Entwives were reunited afterwards?